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Old Jun 12, 2011 | 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by bestbet33
Just had the same issue with a Ford Focus I rented at IAD. It was limited to 80mph. Though this was probably for the greater good. I have a habit of getting pulled over/tickets for speeding in rental cars for some reason.
Indeed. And, "I'm sorry, officer, this is a rental car and I'm just not used to it," works surprisingly well.
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I had a Ford Ranger pickup from Budget a few years back that was limited to exactly 100MPH. Even on a steep downhill it always lost power at EXACTLY 100MPH. Just last week though I got a brand new AVIS KIA Rio up to 107MPH on a downhill and I think it would have gone faster but I let off because I felt I was perhaps driving a wee bit to fast.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Indeed. And, "I'm sorry, officer, this is a rental car and I'm just not used to it," works surprisingly well.
I'm 0 for 2 trying that......

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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 5:46 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Indeed. And, "I'm sorry, officer, this is a rental car and I'm just not used to it," works surprisingly well.
I don't know about that one, but if you rent a Toyota, you could blame unintended acceleration. "Sorry officer, it took off like a bat out of h***, it wouldn't slow down until I shut if off".
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 6:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Mabuk dan gila
I had a Ford Ranger pickup from Budget a few years back that was limited to exactly 100MPH. Even on a steep downhill it always lost power at EXACTLY 100MPH. Just last week though I got a brand new AVIS KIA Rio up to 107MPH on a downhill and I think it would have gone faster but I let off because I felt I was perhaps driving a wee bit to fast.
Having owned a Ranger going over 90 is just begging for trouble. That being said, Ford has a speed limiter set at 98 so if you hit 100 it would force a throttle down.

I had a Taurus this weekend. Probably should've tried to find the key with the limiter, it cruised at 75 with out trouble, and no wheezing when I needed it to go faster. And I still got 28 mpg!
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 7:22 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Indeed. And, "I'm sorry, officer, this is a rental car and I'm just not used to it," works surprisingly well.
I'm 0/1 with a similar approach. However, I did get out of a ticket last weekend when I burned out with an SS at 2AM with the top down. As I approached the last corner near my temp apartment, I decided lay on the gas as I started the turn. Little did I know there was an officer just ahead of me that was stopped waiting for a green light. I parallel parked and he backed up to "pull me over." After he (and 2 other of NC's finest) were thoroughly convinced I wasn't drunk (I could touch my nose and walk a line without issue) and I didn't have anything illegal (they searched every cranny of that car), we joked about my boneheaded move and they went on their way.

Originally Posted by Mabuk dan gila
I had a Ford Ranger pickup from Budget a few years back that was limited to exactly 100MPH. Even on a steep downhill it always lost power at EXACTLY 100MPH. Just last week though I got a brand new AVIS KIA Rio up to 107MPH on a downhill and I think it would have gone faster but I let off because I felt I was perhaps driving a wee bit to fast.
Yeah, the Ford's I've tested were limited between 107-110.


Originally Posted by WIRunner
I had a Taurus this weekend. Probably should've tried to find the key with the limiter, it cruised at 75 with out trouble, and no wheezing when I needed it to go faster. And I still got 28 mpg!
I've only been going around town so far, but I'm only getting 21 MPG with the Taurus I picked up today.

The Taurus is key-less and only has 1 key on the remote (tomorrow, I'll see if there's another in the trunk). I wonder what the car does if it has a MyKey and you have both in the console.
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Old Jun 13, 2011 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by PTravel
Indeed. And, "I'm sorry, officer, this is a rental car and I'm just not used to it," works surprisingly well.
Originally Posted by DiverDave
I'm 0 for 2 trying that......
I'm also 0 for 2 for trying this.

The last officer said, "you dont have to be used to it. There's this great indicator located about 2 feet from your eyes that shows your speed all the time. Just you have to look"
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Old Jun 17, 2011 | 2:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Americanada
I would hate it if this became the norm. Forget about trying to justify why any one would drive over the posted speed limit (I lived in a city where some of the local highway system has the same posted speed limit as back alleys and elementary school zones , within the same city !! - So, of course you'd drive faster on the highway than the posted speed limit).

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There are jurisdictions, including the entire state of California, which have laws requiring drivers to keep pace with other traffic, and you cannot be ticketed for driving over the speed limit if other traffic was flowing at 15 or 20 miles over posted, and you were matching them. So yes, there is a legal justification for driving over the speed limit.

Also, IIR, Montana removed all speed limits for their very rural highways, briefly a few years back, before the HTSA threatened to withdraw highway funds to Montana if they did not impose a speed limit. So, Montana imposed a speed limit for those highways, but I think that it is still 100 MPH in some places in Montana. Didn't Texas set very high speed limits in some areas a few years back also?

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where would i find another key?
Originally Posted by wth
Sometimes? I'm trying to remember that last time I didn't have a pocket bulging set of 2-3 keys plus keyless fob!
+1, Most of the time I have had 2-3 keys, plus fob, or on the keyless ignitions, have had as many as three fobs!

Originally Posted by weaverjf
Wow, don't drive in New England, you'll be run off the road for holding up traffic. Normal rush hour speed is 85.
This is true in many areas of the country, including both the Baltimore Beltway and the Washington, DC beltway.

Originally Posted by IAHtraveler
I think this requires at least one (if not multiple) of the following:
1. Downhill
2. Wind at your back
3. Limited weight in the car (no luggage, small driver, gas tank < 1/4, etc)
4. Being pushed by anything

Originally Posted by pinworm
It can go about 129mph when it reaches terminal velocity after sending it over a very high cliff or pushing out of an airplane.
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It is a Cobalt. I'm sure it would find a way to slow itself down on the way.
ROFLMAO!! Hilarious! (Fortunately, as a CC member, I have never had the "pleasure" of renting a Chevy Cobalt!)
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 9:25 pm
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Originally Posted by USirritated
There are jurisdictions, including the entire state of California, which have laws requiring drivers to keep pace with other traffic, and you cannot be ticketed for driving over the speed limit if other traffic was flowing at 15 or 20 miles over posted, and you were matching them. So yes, there is a legal justification for driving over the speed limit.
I'd like to confirm this with a lawyer or CHP officer before using this as a defense on my next CA speeding ticket , but if so, this is AWESOME. Never heard about this despite growing up in CA, but it makes total sense there!

Originally Posted by USirritated
Also, IIR, Montana removed all speed limits for their very rural highways, briefly a few years back, before the HTSA threatened to withdraw highway funds to Montana if they did not impose a speed limit. So, Montana imposed a speed limit for those highways, but I think that it is still 100 MPH in some places in Montana. Didn't Texas set very high speed limits in some areas a few years back also?
Close, but not quite:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l...States#Montana
http://www.us-highways.com/montana/mtspeed.htm
http://www.doj.mt.gov/driving/drivin...sp#speedlimits
http://www.city-data.com/forum/monta...t-montana.html

As for Texas, they have some stretches of rural Interstates set at 80:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_l..._80_mph_limits
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Old Jun 18, 2011 | 9:35 pm
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Thank you for that information and those links Jackal. Now I know where I remembered the high speeds in Montana from!

"Montana technically had no speed limit whatsoever until June 1999, after the Montana legislature met in regular session and enacted a new law. The law's practical effect was to require numeric speed limits on all roads and disallow any speed limit higher than 75 mph (121 km/h)."

(It was too much to copy and paste, but the above quote refers to a period in 1996 through June 1999 when Montana technically had no speed limit. The additional information is in the same article that the quote came from.)
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by jackal
Originally Posted by USirritated
There are jurisdictions, including the entire state of California, which have laws requiring drivers to keep pace with other traffic, and you cannot be ticketed for driving over the speed limit if other traffic was flowing at 15 or 20 miles over posted, and you were matching them. So yes, there is a legal justification for driving over the speed limit.
I'd like to confirm this with a lawyer or CHP officer before using this as a defense on my next CA speeding ticket , but if so, this is AWESOME. Never heard about this despite growing up in CA, but it makes total sense there!
Well, I wouldn't be sure if it's quite as simple as that. First of all, it may depend on how many other cars there are, where you are in relationship to them (I doubt if it works if you're the car leading the speeders!), road conditions, whether it's a construction zone, and perhaps also whether speeding would the only reason for stopping you.

I hadn't heard the above, but I've heard that in some cases (but hadn't heard what cases) the CHP doesn't stop people for only speeding. But watch out if you're speeding and you have a tail light out, or whatever, I guess!
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 5:12 pm
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To anyone who thinks there is any kind of technicality in California where you can talk your way out of a speeding ticket or won't be pulled over by the CHP for speeding due to one reason or another, I hate to disappoint you, but the State of California is broke due to squandering all it's tax money, thus they have lately became far more concerned about "public safety" and currently have the CHP handing out speeding tickets much more aggressively than they have in the past. I believe you will find your, "I was just going with the flow of traffic defence" just about as effective as the "I'm not used to this rental car" defence.
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 5:32 pm
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This is from the City of Pasadena's website, but I know there are others, Pasadena was just the first site I found:

"Driving Too Slow

You must not drive so slowly that you are a danger on the road, or interfere with the normal or reasonable flow of traffic. You may be cited for driving too slow just as you can be cited for driving too fast.

There are occasionally drivers attempting to obey the posted speed limit who may actually decrease safety by causing other drivers to make additional lane changes in order to get around slow traffic and/ or tailgate to try to speed up the traffic head. In these cases, the driver moving too slowly may cause harm to other motorists, pedestrians and bicyclists because traffic flowing at uniform speeds results in increased safety and fewer accidents."
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Old Jun 19, 2011 | 6:28 pm
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There may be city police departments ins CA that have varying policies. But I can assure you you will not find that on CHP's web site and it will not hold up in court. Having completed traffic school a number of times over the years I am practically college educated on the subject.

Here's from the CA DMV drivers manual.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk/spee...tm#speedlimits

"California has a "Basic Speed Law." This law means that you may never drive faster than is safe for current conditions. For example, if you are driving 45 mph in a 55 mph speed zone during a dense fog, you could be cited for driving "too fast for conditions." You may never legally drive faster than the posted speed limit, even if you think it is safe."

Actual Vehicle code is here.
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/wa...ction=retrieve

Anecdotally, I'm personally seeing WAY more people getting pulled over by CHP lately. California is still a walk in the park compared to some other states with speed traps around every corner but CHP is definitely stepping up enforcement concurrent with the States ongoing budget crisis (which I am sure is just a coincidence)

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Old Jun 20, 2011 | 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by sdsearch
I hadn't heard the above, but I've heard that in some cases (but hadn't heard what cases) the CHP doesn't stop people for only speeding. But watch out if you're speeding and you have a tail light out, or whatever, I guess!
A friend's cousin is a CHP officer. His exact words were, "We won't pull you over for driving fast. We will pull you over for weaving back and forth to drive faster than traffic."

That was a few years ago, though...
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