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LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0

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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

NOTE: This previous thread has been closed; it can be read here LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
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Old May 26, 14, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef View Post
Problem is most of the good stuff is released a few days before departure, ahh so much pressure!!!
Thankfully at the normal rates the prices are still fairly acceptable.
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Old May 26, 14, 1:11 pm
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Not sure whether this is the right thread to ask this question. Anyways should I be worried about violating cabotage with a booking C1-C3-C2?
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Old May 26, 14, 1:13 pm
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Not sure whether this is the right thread to ask this question. Anyways should I be worried about violating cabotage with a booking C1-C3-C2?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/avian...trick-169.html
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Old May 26, 14, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by LH4116 View Post
Not sure whether this is the right thread to ask this question. Anyways should I be worried about violating cabotage with a booking C1-C3-C2?
No cabotage in this case. Only if you do CountryA-xxx-xxx-xxx-CountryA and do not stop anywhere on route (so for instance, JFK-YYZ-ORD or something like that). C1-C3-C2 doesn't fall into cabotage at all. Cabotage doesn't mean "depart country 1, go through an unrelated country 2 to get to country 3" - it means "depart country 1, go through some unrelated country/ies, and end up back in country 1".
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Old May 26, 14, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post
No cabotage in this case. Only if you do CountryA-xxx-xxx-xxx-CountryA and do not stop anywhere on route (so for instance, JFK-YYZ-ORD or something like that). C1-C3-C2 doesn't fall into cabotage at all. Cabotage doesn't mean "depart country 1, go through an unrelated country 2 to get to country 3" - it means "depart country 1, go through some unrelated country/ies, and end up back in country 1".
We need a sticky one. Hopefully you don't mind that I put your response in the Wiki.
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Old May 26, 14, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko View Post
We need a sticky one. Hopefully you don't mind that I put your response in the Wiki.
Oops, I think we both just edited the wiki at the same time
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Old May 26, 14, 1:25 pm
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Oops, I think we both just edited the wiki at the same time
Yeah. Maybe add the countries it applies to as they are not all, afaik? US for sure and there was a report about Australia?

"One notable exception is the European Union, whose members all grant cabotage rights to each other"
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Old May 26, 14, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim View Post
No cabotage in this case. Only if you do CountryA-xxx-xxx-xxx-CountryA and do not stop anywhere on route (so for instance, JFK-YYZ-ORD or something like that). C1-C3-C2 doesn't fall into cabotage at all. Cabotage doesn't mean "depart country 1, go through an unrelated country 2 to get to country 3" - it means "depart country 1, go through some unrelated country/ies, and end up back in country 1".
That's good to hear. I plan on using all the segments to the final ticketed destination so hopefully it should be kosher.
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Old May 26, 14, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by mlqsko View Post
Yeah. Maybe add the countries it applies to as they are not all, afaik? US for sure and there was a report about Australia?

"One notable exception is the European Union, whose members all grant cabotage rights to each other"
A list of exceptions is much shorter than a list of all countries that restrict cabotage
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Old May 26, 14, 3:37 pm
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Not that it matters anymore, but I was able to drink some Veen this weekend using the old trick.
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Old May 26, 14, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia View Post
I am not seeing any changes at all. I have never tried to fly cabbages though with a layover at a Straßenbahnhaltestelle.

All the "interesting" routes that I hoped to book are still there including chainy bears and cool C3 routes.

Have you clicked through?
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Old May 26, 14, 4:17 pm
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Have you clicked through?
I had not checked, so I just did, and yes I can, or at least I can click as far as is possible without buying it.
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Old May 26, 14, 9:26 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnnyColombia View Post
I had not checked, so I just did, and yes I can, or at least I can click as far as is possible without buying it.
Think you might have a couple terms mixed up?

Anyway, there's still a good amount available despite the recent attention, such as the ursa and the footrest (and yes I am attempting to further the coding in this thread starting now). It is interesting to me what remains available as well. I have a few things to check on when I return home that are difficult to do from just a phone, but hopefully they are still available as well.
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Old May 26, 14, 10:52 pm
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Anyway, there's still a good amount available despite the recent attention, such as the ursa and the footrest (and yes I am attempting to further the coding in this thread starting now).
"footrest" gives out a very focused location. That's "further the coding"? Pseudo Nim's term is cleverly looking us in the eye without being apparent, and WWE's term is a fantastic progression from that.

"ursa" translates directly into a current term that's used here extensively, so does not make better coding either.

Sorry... thumbs down to both...
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Old May 26, 14, 11:22 pm
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I am slowly getting the hang of the coding. Is there a primer somewhere?

To answer the question regarding purchasing LMs or not: I keep some in my account incase a share offer comes up, and usually purchase a few when on sale as I normally would be able to make use of them in the next few months anyway.
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