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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

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Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Old May 13, 2018, 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by wtcmor
I got fra to bos and all ticketed o,
Was it showing up on UA.com though?
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Old May 14, 2018, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
Was it showing up on UA.com though?
no idea sorry didn't check
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Old May 14, 2018, 3:19 am
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Mine ticketed fine. So it seems that SQ and LM have access to LH F that UA don't. Apparently its to do with UA systems.
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Old May 15, 2018, 12:56 am
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Originally Posted by Yi Yang
ANYONE WISHING TO SHARE ANY TRICKS FOR LM for me ? I used to know GUMMY bear and flown it. But now I thought there is other Tricks might be working. Anyone willing to share to me? Please PM me if you could. I could offer you some IHG points for rewards
Just think, why would someone share valuable tricks.....
By the way, what route are you looking for?
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Old May 15, 2018, 2:26 am
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Originally Posted by onlysuites
Mine ticketed fine. So it seems that SQ and LM have access to LH F that UA don't. Apparently its to do with UA systems.
This is correct. LH has opened up some opportunities for F class award seats. Some airlines such as UA have an additional 'block' to prevent releasing LH F more than 14 days prior to departure. IIRC aeroplan has a similar block. LM and SQ don't.

How long this opportunity will last is anyone's guess (ie when LH will restrict F again).
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Old May 15, 2018, 7:35 am
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I have just tried a handful of routes and it looks like F more than 14 days out has now been corrected

Not only that, but on my particular flight all inventory has gone - J and F (previously showing 4 and 4, now the flight isn't even showing up in coach).

I've just looked at PEK, PVG, ICN, HKG and DEL. All F gone. (Still widely available within 14 days)
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Old May 15, 2018, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
I have just tried a handful of routes and it looks like F more than 14 days out has now been corrected

Not only that, but on my particular flight all inventory has gone - J and F (previously showing 4 and 4, now the flight isn't even showing up in coach).

I've just looked at PEK, PVG, ICN, HKG and DEL. All F gone. (Still widely available within 14 days)
I guess that just reinforces the frequent flyer's adage - "If in doubt, just book". Glad I did when the window was open. Thank you to those who pointed me in the right direction.

I can still see Y FRA-BLR for some dates.
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Old May 15, 2018, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
I have just tried a handful of routes and it looks like F more than 14 days out has now been corrected

Not only that, but on my particular flight all inventory has gone - J and F (previously showing 4 and 4, now the flight isn't even showing up in coach).

I've just looked at PEK, PVG, ICN, HKG and DEL. All F gone. (Still widely available within 14 days)
Ah crud, still need to book my return flights! I was hoping there would at least be J availability. Argh.
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Old May 15, 2018, 8:31 pm
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Originally Posted by iluvdoco
Ah crud, still need to book my return flights! I was hoping there would at least be J availability. Argh.
There is still J availability out there. Just on the flights I have actually booked in F that flight has now been withdrawn from any other awards - J or F. Which is odd. I checked and the flight hasn't been cancelled for example.

Within 14 days still ok.
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Old May 30, 2018, 3:43 am
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any boomie ex EU? i can see a post on trickit thread which hints at boomerang rather than a revenue premium ticket.
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Old May 30, 2018, 4:17 am
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I love how someone on trick it posts something weird and people immediately think: this has to be Lifemiles ;-)
Why not ask the OP?
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Old May 30, 2018, 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by bittihuduga
any boomie ex EU? i can see a post on trickit thread which hints at boomerang rather than a revenue premium ticket.
from EU to where?
EU to EU via Cairo is also a boomie, but I doubt that is what you are asking.
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Old Jun 6, 2018, 8:41 pm
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Does anyone have information on any Lifemiles discount award promos currently going on?
I see that LAX-TPE on Eva prices at 60K miles in business, instead of the published 75K. No tricks, just a straight up search.
LAX-TPE-HKG goes for 64K, but anywhere else reprices to the standard 75K- 78K miles range.
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 10:48 am
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Whatever LH availability you see on LM is avail through UA as well, its just a matter of knowing what to tell the rep and/or knowing what to add or subtract to force the availability out of its hiding place.
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Old Jun 7, 2018, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Tokyoite
Does anyone have information on any Lifemiles discount award promos currently going on?
I see that LAX-TPE on Eva prices at 60K miles in business, instead of the published 75K. No tricks, just a straight up search.
LAX-TPE-HKG goes for 64K, but anywhere else reprices to the standard 75K- 78K miles range.
I can't find it. I'm pretty sure LM sent an email about a month or so ago with some discounted awards listed. I've gone through my emails and nothing. There were a range of routes with discounts, pretty much in line with the levels you mention.
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