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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

Screenshot Method
Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old May 28, 2017, 11:26 am
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Anyone know if Korean BBQ still available in F for sub 90k miles O/W?
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Old May 28, 2017, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Anyone know if Korean BBQ still available in F for sub 90k miles O/W?
Online not, only C. Maybe with printscreens?
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Old Jul 18, 2017, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Once upon a time, there was a chinese student living in Saltwater City...
Thought he was Canadian... Neverminds
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 5:37 pm
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Good first experience with LifeMiles

I thought I'd share my positive experience with LM today. I bought some of their miles a month ago in one of the promotions. Never used them before, never fly Avianca.

I was looking for an LH C MAD>FRA>IAD around end of August. I found MAD>FRA in C on one day, but no FRA>IAD in C on any day. I decided to check MAD>MUC>IAD, and it came up showing LH C available on a routing MUC>FRA>IAD. Strange.

I sent screenshots to them last night, and today they emailed me the booking and phoned confirming they could do LH C MAD>FRA>IAD on the flights I originally wanted. We didn't discuss why FRA>IAD showed no availability on its own, but showed availability as part of a trip MUC>FRA>IAD.

The whole booking was over within 15 minutes. Nice experience overall. The availability issue is what I wanted to highlight here because I actually expected them to tell me LH C FRA>IAD was not available, so I guess if you see availability through some other peculiar routing and one of your flights is in that routing, it's worth asking them about it.

If this is already known, apologies in advance!
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 5:44 pm
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I can't find any LH F to/from IAD and they've become super stingy with LH C within Europe. They're actively trying to block C1 --> C2 or C2 --> C1 on LH F in my opinion. So they figure, if they cut off the intra-EU flights in C (particularly on LH) then they'll have to give out a fraction of the hub to hub LH F tickets.

Originally Posted by Matthew_DC
I thought I'd share my positive experience with LM today. I bought some of their miles a month ago in one of the promotions. Never used them before, never fly Avianca.

I was looking for an LH C MAD>FRA>IAD around end of August. I found MAD>FRA in C on one day, but no FRA>IAD in C on any day. I decided to check MAD>MUC>IAD, and it came up showing LH C available on a routing MUC>FRA>IAD. Strange.

I sent screenshots to them last night, and today they emailed me the booking and phoned confirming they could do LH C MAD>FRA>IAD on the flights I originally wanted. We didn't discuss why FRA>IAD showed no availability on its own, but showed availability as part of a trip MUC>FRA>IAD.

The whole booking was over within 15 minutes. Nice experience overall. The availability issue is what I wanted to highlight here because I actually expected them to tell me LH C FRA>IAD was not available, so I guess if you see availability through some other peculiar routing and one of your flights is in that routing, it's worth asking them about it.

If this is already known, apologies in advance!
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Old Jul 27, 2017, 6:30 pm
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Hi,

I used the screenshot method before for myself, now trying to use it to ticket a flight C1-> C5 for my wife. I have sent her information and DOB, my account number and her passport screenshot. Anything else?

Thanks
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 6:47 am
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Can add business class blocking to the list for Lufthansa now... trying to get FRA or MUC to PVG next week and nothing at all on LM... wide open on UA tool.
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by LHR/MEL/Europe FF
Can add business class blocking to the list for Lufthansa now... trying to get FRA or MUC to PVG next week and nothing at all on LM... wide open on UA tool.
Not a big loss given their J product is pretty terrible.
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Old Jul 28, 2017, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Not a big loss given their J product is pretty terrible.

For sure - except it was the exact flight I needed for departure from the USA, connect in FRA and arrive in PVG all at the times I wanted
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 3:50 am
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I have found FRA-BOS 2 x F awards in LH via Award Nexus in the next 7 days but I cannot book via the LM site. Should I use the email method? Any ideas please?
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 5:24 am
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Originally Posted by astonmartinv8
I have found FRA-BOS 2 x F awards in LH via Award Nexus in the next 7 days but I cannot book via the LM site. Should I use the email method? Any ideas please?
What you see on LM site is exactly what LM agents see. So email won't help!
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 6:28 am
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Originally Posted by Artemio
What you see on LM site is exactly what LM agents see. So email won't help!
Oh Dear, well that isn't going to work then. Any thoughts on what might work or am I stuffed?
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by astonmartinv8
Oh Dear, well that isn't going to work then. Any thoughts on what might work or am I stuffed?
Get LH miles or forget it. Those awards are not available to partners.
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by astonmartinv8
Oh Dear, well that isn't going to work then. Any thoughts on what might work or am I stuffed?
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Old Aug 5, 2017, 3:30 pm
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None of these options you have showed above are showing for me, maybe the options they give you vary depending on where you live
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