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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Originally Posted by Moderator2
Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart

LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Send email to [email protected] with attached screenshots on Lifemiles website of each individual leg showing availability. Also, screenshot showing no availability as one booking. Include passenger names, gender and DOB and copy of passenger passport. They will either call you for payment or email the itinerary and give you 3 days to call up and make payment by CC.

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Old Jan 20, 2016, 8:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Pseudo Nim
I had no idea Manny likes gummy bears so much. Disappointed.
Chainsaw is also on the up and up still, that hasn't changed either. Just getting the obvious ones out of the way so people don't waste their time.
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Old Jan 20, 2016, 11:38 pm
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Definitely can see Mixed Cabins which will be a interesting option. However, seems LM will be pricing based on highest cabin even if only one segment of the trip is in that cabin.

For example, say you are offered a routing like SFO-LAX(UA F)-NRT(NH Y)-SIN(NH Y) you will be charged for a OW F class redemption for 99K mls because SFO-LAX is in (domestic) First. What a joke .

One better be aware and check all the details before booking. I can already see people not catching this though in all fairness a message does pop-up before proceeding.

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Old Jan 21, 2016, 12:30 am
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Any luck with the famous fruit? Havent bothered searching that in a while.
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by demue
I can already see people not catching this though in all fairness a message does pop-up before proceeding.
silly people then.. all programs that allow mixed cabins price at the highest cabin, unless we're talking additive pricing i.e. BA
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 2:25 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Any luck with the famous fruit? Havent bothered searching that in a while.
Famous fruit works in Y.
In C it's one of the beautiful examples where the wrong leg is determining the price
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 2:41 am
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so much deliciousness. fruits, cabbages, and all-natural "new formulas"
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by Wilko Pali Sedef
Any luck with the famous fruit? Havent bothered searching that in a while.
Yes, neighbouring countries work well too.
Fruit is great visa-wise. Some of the others are slightly more complicated.

NH F C3-C2 for 66k... I'll take some complications
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 3:27 am
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Originally Posted by Jermyn
Yes, neighbouring countries work well too.
Fruit is great visa-wise. Some of the others are slightly more complicated.

NH F C3-C2 for 66k... I'll take some complications
starting in the same region you can do it at that price without any complications
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 4:21 am
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With the recent changes LM gave us a new chance to do better than last time. I know that some won't agree, but even coded routes shouldn't be posted here anymore.
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 6:38 am
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Man, does anyone know when they will do 2x1? I skipped the last one but this is too good to be true.
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by oziman
Man, does anyone know when they will do 2x1? I skipped the last one but this is too good to be true.
I am sure it will be soon.

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Old Jan 21, 2016, 7:30 am
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Happy times are back!



mlqsko - you should not give them the idea!
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 10:30 am
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Did anyone noticed the annoying captcha? Got it a few times while clicking next on calendar!!


One the other hand - LH F long haul is wide open from C3 to famous f.

oh by the way - hi!
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Old Jan 21, 2016, 11:36 am
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Website down for anyone else?

NVM it is back up. More reliable than UA.bomb which hasn't worked for award searches for days .

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Old Jan 21, 2016, 1:00 pm
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Can someone explain why the new mixed cabin scheme is superior to the previous system?

Sure, it gives additional flexibility and a greater range of destinations, but it also prevents booking C3-C2-C1 F fares because the C2-C1 leg will be in J or Y.

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