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Old May 26, 2014, 8:47 am
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Every forum on Flyertalk has a personality. A forum gains a personality through user input over time, and Lifemiles is a very definitive example of how users have developed a unique community.

While Flyertalk boards actively encourage sharing of info, the Lifemiles community has developed and thrived via obscuring of certain data elements. It may not be easy for new participants to break through the codes and gain knowledge of the program's quirks, but the overall board community has adopted this unique approach. And frankly, that is not going to change overnight.

If a FT member wants to participate on this board, then they will need to respect other users. Hence, posts that run counter to this community's standards, will be removed.
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C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania

2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.

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LifeMiles' old Star Alliance Award Chart (before Oct 15 2014) // Table of changes

Cash & Miles redemptions: the price per mile purchased during award booking varies significantly depending on how many miles are purchased. The "sweet spots" are between 38% and 58% of the total mileage required, where miles are purchased for 1.5 cents. See here for some examples.

Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).

Understand Cabotage: Departing country 1, transiting country 2, returning to country 1 (no stopping) *is* cabotage (example: depart JFK, connect in YYZ to return to ORD, or depart Miami, connect in Bogota, return to San Francisco). On the other hand, departing country 1, going to completely unrelated country 2, and ending up in country 3, is not cabotage. So if you fly JFK-JNB-ZRH, for instance, this is completely not cabotage.

Availability: Seeing availability for *A award seats elsewhere is no guarantee they are accessible on Lifemiles. For instance award space shown on ANA often is not accessible on Lifemiles. Similarly, finding award space on single legs doesn't mean you'll get award space on the combined itinerary. And no, there is no way to overcome that.

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Old Jun 5, 2015, 10:14 am
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Is KHV VVO and UUS not any more in Russia ?

Is KHV VVO and UUS not any more in Russia ? Or does Russia not belong anymore to Europe Zone ?
Tryed to find availability LHR- to above ( which was given ) , but always quoted Europe - Northasia ?
Even within Russia DME-VVO them Charge 75k for Business

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Old Jun 5, 2015, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by bertheike
Is KHV VVO and UUS not any more in Russia ? Or does Russia not belong anymore to Europe Zone ?
Tryed to find availability LHR- to above ( which was given ) , but always quoted Europe - Northasia ?
Even within Russia DME-VVO them Charge 75k for Business
New Zone created for Russia East of URAL mountains. "E Ural Russia, Russia".



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Nothing about that in Award Chart
You should have noticed it when you typed "VVO".

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Old Jun 5, 2015, 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
New Zone created for Russia East of URAL mountains. "E Ural Russia, Russia"
Nothing about that in Award Chart ! https://www.lifemiles.com/eng/inc/starredawards.aspx
I think LH teaches them
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Old Jun 5, 2015, 9:40 pm
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Was winter 16 a typo ?
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 2:17 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
New Zone created for Russia East of URAL mountains. "E Ural Russia, Russia".

You should have noticed it when you typed "VVO".
just checked again, and saw
Flight 1 - June, 9th, 2015
Moscow (Moskva), Domodedovo International Airport (DME) to Vladivostok , E Ural Russia (VVO)

But in the milage table I not found a new Zone, but under others
NOTE: Miles required may vary according to geographical location.
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 4:57 am
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Gummybear to Europe. A bit more expensive than when the chainsaw had its heyday, but still very very cheap. A challenge for those who like geography...
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Gummybear to Europe. A bit more expensive than when the chainsaw had its heyday, but still very very cheap. A challenge for those who like geography...
and the "capital City"?
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 8:57 am
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and the "capital City"?
Doesn't ring a bell.
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Doesn't ring a bell.
Mhh.....on an island?
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by kanada99
Mhh.....on an island?
Apart from the origin itself, yes, one of the participating hops is on an island. But that's no surprise, given the jelly baby's preference for water.
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Gummybear to Europe. A bit more expensive than when the chainsaw had its heyday, but still very very cheap. A challenge for those who like geography...
Since the bear is properly coded, your posting implies a positioning flight to The Bear. Starting January I get substantial discounts from this Pacific Island to Central Europe with a "blind attachment". Both in Y and J.
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by WingedWorldExplorer
Since the bear is properly coded, your posting implies a positioning flight to The Bear. Starting January I get substantial discounts from this Pacific Island to Central Europe with a "blind attachment". Both in Y and J.
Yes mine is a one-way FROM the bear. And Y only.
How you get TO the bear is an entirely different thing.

PS To say the bear is correctly coded is highly disputable. But for sure it's (intentionally) assigned the wrong country by our LM friends
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by WolfvanWeen
Yes mine is a one-way FROM the bear. And Y only.
How you get TO the bear is an entirely different thing.

PS To say the bear is correctly coded is highly disputable. But for sure it's (intentionally) assigned the wrong country by our LM friends
Yes, country is wrong Philippines, but not zone. If in another zone, routings would be even more incredible.

J too if different final destination is chosen.

Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Jun 6, 2015 at 12:59 pm Reason: TATL @ 1/2 price now possible in 2016.
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 12:42 pm
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with dschingis khan or putins home i cant realise. Is my geography that bad or my english knowledge or both?
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Old Jun 6, 2015, 1:03 pm
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It's just me or everybody will hit a captcha protection after an extensive number of queries? It breaks my scripts for testing out the useful routings on the AV redemption page.
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