Jan 1, 2014, 5:17 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: This thread has been superseded by the thread entitled LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it) Rebooted v2.0. Please follow the discussion there.
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
Region definitions
C1 North America
C1.5 Caribbean, Bermuda
C2 Europe
C2.5 Middle East
C3 Asia
C4 South America
C5 Africa
C6 Oceania
2X, 3X: in the context of this LifeMiles thread, 2X and 3X refer to any 2nd and 3rd legs of a one-way award ticket.
LifeMiles' Star Alliance Award Chart
Cash & Miles redemptions: buying the max (60%) isn't always the best deal (unless you're purchasing all miles right there). Check here for the best CPM.
Beware of Cabotage: LifeMiles has been known to issue tickets that constitute Cabotage, and at least one instance of denied boarding has been reported, stranding the passenger. An easily-seen example is travel on Copa from LAX to SJU (via PTY).
LM F and J routes (and the occasional trick-it)
Oct 9, 2013, 7:56 am
#466
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[deleted--wrong; need coffee]
Oct 9, 2013, 7:58 am
#467
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hahahaha.
Oct 9, 2013, 8:23 am
#468
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Oct 9, 2013, 8:23 am
#469
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Oct 9, 2013, 11:32 am
#470
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why would anyone want to fly into our out of KIX, BOM, or any number of other non-gateway cities? Maybe, you know, cause people want to go there? 
Let's be fair, this thread should identify as many possible uses as possible - not only major gateways.Plus, strangely enough, I've had two people ask me about routings to TLV in the last two weeks... so it's more common than you'd think.
If traveling is only about gateway cities it would be completely boring. Take FRA for example!
Oct 9, 2013, 11:35 am
#471
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KIX kind of sucks actually, if only because it's sooooooooooooooooooo far from any of the good cities in the area. Driving to Osaka is an hour minimum, Kobe is almost two hours, and the trains take a long time too... but anyhow, yeah, the point I was making was that non-gateway cities are fun to visit, and so TLV just makes another one on the list.^
Oct 10, 2013, 6:08 am
#476
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Location: DEN
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I lied! yerffej201 is correct: the remarkable performance of those places is seen only in Y.
When looking at the calendar page and there is availability in more than one class, don't make my rookie mistake of clicking through to see the Y flights and then just assuming that the J flights are the same; they are not necessarily so. In the particular routes I mentioned, some of the Y flights take the long way while the J offerings are only available when there are shorter paths with no advantage. I'm utterly embarrassed.
When looking at the calendar page and there is availability in more than one class, don't make my rookie mistake of clicking through to see the Y flights and then just assuming that the J flights are the same; they are not necessarily so. In the particular routes I mentioned, some of the Y flights take the long way while the J offerings are only available when there are shorter paths with no advantage. I'm utterly embarrassed.
Oct 10, 2013, 2:17 pm
#477
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Guys, is lifemiles still good value? I heard there was a devaluation not long ago? I nearly bought some miles the last Bogof offer....
Oct 10, 2013, 3:26 pm
#478
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Oct 10, 2013, 5:55 pm
#479
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