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Old Feb 5, 2017, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by JamesBond_ppk
Has there been any communication from OZ about the configuration of these aircraft?

Is there a slim chance for a First class cabin (4 or 8 seats) on the A350-1000 or even on the A350-900?
OZ is removing F in 777s right now. I wouldn't expect F in A350. Looking at seat maps, TG one seems what OZ will follow mostly.

https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Th...s_A350-900.php
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
OZ is removing F in 777s right now. I wouldn't expect F in A350. Looking at seat maps, TG one seems what OZ will follow mostly.
But I would assume the QS seat rather than the Solstys that TG uses, no?
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
They cant even make a profit on current routes (for years, not just recently), why would they take a risk to start a new route ? That would be quite a stupid decision if they do it.
I believe they need to start or switch to routes that do not have competition or guaranteed business. Flying into SFO is just fighting it's own partner for business.

IAH on the other hand is an connecting UA hub, KE flies 3x here even though IAH is not an skyteam hub. OZ could do some serious damage to KE and rely on connecting travelers to fill up there planes at IAH.

There's not enough flow traffic at ICN from OZ from North America like KE has.
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
But I would assume the QS seat rather than the Solstys that TG uses, no?
Business class type looks similar between TG (on A350) and OZ QS, isn't it? The number (and type) of seat is what OZ would likely to follow. I think OZ will limit business class section between L1 and L2 doors.

Here's a very funny QS picture. Seat of the guy lying down is still upright, not in the bed mode.

https://www.waytofly.com/business-cl...rlines/asiana/
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by bobbybrown
Business class type looks similar between TG (on A350) and OZ QS, isn't it?
Yes the layout is very similar staggered 1-2-1 but technically a different seat.

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Here's a very funny QS picture. Seat of the guy lying down is still upright, not in the bed mode.
Nice! I've seen pax do that. Not sure they knew how to make the seat recline.
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Old Feb 5, 2017, 3:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee

Nice! I've seen pax do that. Not sure they knew how to make the seat recline.
Kinda hard not to when there's an little bed logo button.

Wish I could do that too but height is an issue.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 5:28 pm
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They're losing money on short haul in large part because they don't have enough long haul connecting traffic to fill their short haul flights. Starting more routes to NA is just what they need to do but they don't have the planes as of this moment.

their layover timings seem to be terrible. For Sin to LA or NYC flights require at least a 6hr layover, I wonder why they cant retime their flights to have a shorter connection time for onward connections.
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Old Feb 25, 2017, 6:02 pm
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their layover timings seem to be terrible. For Sin to LA or NYC flights require at least a 6hr layover, I wonder why they cant retime their flights to have a shorter connection time for onward connections.
Fleet utilization. They don't leave the aircraft sitting on the ground at the destination, but turn them right back to ICN. This is good for fleet utilization efficiency, but makes for some very long connections at ICN.

BKK-ICN is another example.
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Old Mar 1, 2017, 6:51 am
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Although posted separately, let me continue this thread...
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asian...m-economy.html

More A350 details are emerging. A350 begins commercial flight on May 15th, 7/w to KIX 6/w to MNL. Later this year to SFO and LHR and more. 36 premium economy seats, called 'economy smartium', will be introduced per aircraft with 3-4 more inches in pitch. Rumor is that total seat will be 311, C28PY36Y247.
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Old Mar 1, 2017, 6:57 pm
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Seatmap is released. C28PY36Y247.

http://flyasiana.com/CW/ko/common/pa...pageId=PC_0173

One more caveat: inflight wi-fi on A350 will launch sometime this year. Pricing information not disclosed as of yet.

A359 schedule is loaded: 2 daily KIX and 6 weekly MNL, 5/15-8/13. Looks very tight but not sure OZ will have two A350s by then or not.
OZ112/111 0755-0940/1050-1240 ICN-KIX/KIX-ICN 7/w
OZ114/113 1405-1550/1700-1850 ICN-KIX/KIX-ICN 7/w
OZ703/704 1950-2250/0005-0510 ICN-MNL/MNL-ICN 6/w

One daily ICN-PEK and ICN-SIN 7/28-8/13
One daily ICN-PVG and ICN-SFO (first longhaul) 8/14-10/
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Old Mar 1, 2017, 11:29 pm
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Old Mar 2, 2017, 3:45 pm
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Economy Smartium class. Nothing special about the seats, just more legroom. I am going to say this is disappointing, having just come of SQ's PE seats in their A350. I wonder now how many people will pay for an upgrade to PE on Asiana since the seat is the same as regular economy. Maybe for people who are 6'5" and over?
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Old Mar 2, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Originally Posted by nme7
Economy Smartium class. Nothing special about the seats, just more legroom. I am going to say this is disappointing, having just come of SQ's PE seats in their A350. I wonder now how many people will pay for an upgrade to PE on Asiana since the seat is the same as regular economy. Maybe for people who are 6'5" and over?
When economy already offers decent legroom (32-33"), smartium with 36" pitch wouldn't appeal that much. But unlike SQ who charges as much as twice for PE, OZ said there will be only like $150 or so surcharge for upgrading to the smartium on a longhaul, oneway. Much like UA E+. It may work.
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Old Mar 2, 2017, 4:18 pm
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also looks like the PE seats have a bit more recline, which imo, is better benefit than the extra legroom in OZ.
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Old Mar 8, 2017, 2:34 am
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Reservations for the A350-900XWB aircraft now open,and will enter service in May 2017. Aircraft configuration is C28Y283 (3-3-3 in Economy).
Initial operations as follows:

Seoul Incheon – Beijing 28JUL17 – 13AUG17 OZ331/332
Seoul Incheon – Hanoi eff 14AUG17 OZ733/734 Day x346
Seoul Incheon – Manila eff 15MAY17 OZ703/704 Day x2 from ICN/ Day x3 from MNL (EXCEPT 14AUG17 – 28SEP17)
Seoul Incheon – Osaka Kansai eff 15MAY17 OZ112/111, OZ114/113 (EXCEPT 14AUG17 – 28SEP17)
Seoul Incheon – San Francisco eff 14AUG17 1 daily
Seoul Incheon – Shanghai Pu Dong eff 14AUG17 OZ361/362
Seoul Incheon – Singapore 28JUL17 – 13AUG17 OZ751/752 Day x24
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