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OZ 214 ICN-SFO (reg no HL-7742), a 2006 Boeing 777-200ER with P&W PW4090 engines; flew ICN - KIX - ICN immediately prior (not as OZ 214). 291 passengers and 16 crew on board. 3 people dead, 48 seriously injured, 132 less so.
Aircraft landed short on approach (VFR weather, ILS out of service, PAPI working) impacting the seawall delimiting runway 28L with main landing gear and then the tail 11:28 PDT, careering down the runway to a stop and ensuing fire. The empennage and both engines separated from the fuselage, and fire from an oil drip in engine no. 2 burnt a significant part of the upper forward fuselage.
Runway 28L / 10R was closed until 1700 PDT 12 July; all SFO runways are open.
Here is a Link to the Flightaware track. (6 Jul 2013).
Link to original BBC article; Link to BBC photo show
Update: 08 July 2013
Summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 09 July 2013
SF Gate summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 10 July 2013
NBC video and summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 11 July 2013
San Jose Mercury summary of final NTSB press conference
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OZ 214 ICN-SFO (reg no HL-7742), a 2006 Boeing 777-200ER with P&W PW4090 engines; flew ICN - KIX - ICN immediately prior (not as OZ 214). 291 passengers and 16 crew on board. 3 people dead, 48 seriously injured, 132 less so.
Aircraft landed short on approach (VFR weather, ILS out of service, PAPI working) impacting the seawall delimiting runway 28L with main landing gear and then the tail 11:28 PDT, careering down the runway to a stop and ensuing fire. The empennage and both engines separated from the fuselage, and fire from an oil drip in engine no. 2 burnt a significant part of the upper forward fuselage.
Runway 28L / 10R was closed until 1700 PDT 12 July; all SFO runways are open.
Here is a Link to the Flightaware track. (6 Jul 2013).
Link to original BBC article; Link to BBC photo show
Update: 08 July 2013
Summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 09 July 2013
SF Gate summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 10 July 2013
NBC video and summary of NTSB press conference
Update: 11 July 2013
San Jose Mercury summary of final NTSB press conference
PLEASE NOTE: Due to the sensitive nature of an aircraft crash, Senior Moderators ask that posts be made keeping the surviving passengers, crewmembers and their families in mind. Posts that do not comply with TOS (off-topic and dilatory posts, OMNI, conspiracies, inflammatory, etc.) will be summarily deleted.
Asiana Airline OZ214 777 crash at SFO (6 Jul 2013)
Jul 6, 2013, 3:26 pm
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FAA website NOTAMs confirm the glide slope is out on both 28 runways at SFO through late August:
06/008 (A1064/13) - RWY 28R RVRT U/S. 01 JUN 14:00 2013 UNTIL 22 AUG 23:59 2013. CREATED: 01 JUN
13:42 2013
06/005 (A1056/13) - NAV ILS RWY 28L GP U/S. 01 JUN 14:00 2013 UNTIL 22 AUG 23:59 2013. CREATED: 01
JUN 13:40 2013
Nothing about PAPI outage however.
06/008 (A1064/13) - RWY 28R RVRT U/S. 01 JUN 14:00 2013 UNTIL 22 AUG 23:59 2013. CREATED: 01 JUN
13:42 2013
06/005 (A1056/13) - NAV ILS RWY 28L GP U/S. 01 JUN 14:00 2013 UNTIL 22 AUG 23:59 2013. CREATED: 01
JUN 13:40 2013
Nothing about PAPI outage however.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:27 pm
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Jul 6, 2013, 3:27 pm
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If they had declared an emergency landing, which they didn't, they (ATC) wouldn't have given the UA plane the "few minutes" he needed to sort whatever it was out.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:28 pm
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No need for the glide slope in VFR conditions. The PAPI lights being out of service would definitely been cause for concern in this accident.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:30 pm
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On the first listen, I thought the declaration was moments just before touchdown. Anyway, I fixed my post.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:30 pm
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They should have surely been trained to successfully land a properly working 777 in crystal clear weather on a 12000' x 200' runway without any radio navaids at all.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:30 pm
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Jul 6, 2013, 3:30 pm
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It's obvious that there was no "cartwheeling". That's the first thing I heard about the crash, and I was expecting a pile of wreckage instead of a virtually whole airplane. Typical of the "over-reporting" on live incidents.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:31 pm
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Hope most everyone got out in time. Just heard the interview of a survivor's daughter, only some major injuries thankfully. Yet to find out more details. The ntsb news conference is about to start in dc.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:32 pm
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Atleast two dead reported by MSNBC.
If there was a fire before landing, i'm assuming the FAs would relay that info to the pilots which would relay it to the tower. If it's hidden, then no one would know until the NTSB does their investigation.
Hence why I said that.
Fire doesn't wait to be declared. The images so far show combustion from the interior of the aircraft.
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Hence why I said that.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:32 pm
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The people who used that term meant the fuselage was "spinning," as i it were mounted on a record turntable. Poor choice of colloquialisms but understandable.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:32 pm
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In the photos I saw, there were two slides deployed on one side on the plane, and X* on the other side. What's the best possible exit rate in pax/minute/slide in the situation? They were lucky it was full daylight and they didn't have to evacuate in the dark.
*anybody know how many slides were deployed/used on the far side from the photo in this thread?
*anybody know how many slides were deployed/used on the far side from the photo in this thread?
IIRC, they want to have all pax off the plane in three minutes or less.
Jul 6, 2013, 3:32 pm
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