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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 2:07 pm
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FWIW I’m completely ignorant as to where one should stay in Phnom Penh, or what one should see or do.
What to see/do ? Just look on any website or guide book, but I would say for a 1st time visitor:
- Royal palace
- national museum
- Sisowath quay area
- S21 (Tuol Sleng) genocide museum / killing field (don’t do both as it will be extremely depressing in a single day, favor S21 IMO)
- Wat Phnom
- Russian market
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Goldorak
- S21 (Tuol Sleng) genocide museum / killing field (don’t do both as it will be extremely depressing in a single day, favor S21 IMO)
I did both on the same day and while I wouldn't call it depressing, it was certainly somber.
Might be worth doing some reading (even if it's wikipedia) before the OP heads out there.

Incidentally for those who don't know. Khmer is not pronounced K-Merr as is widely prounounced, but actually K-Mai
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Old Nov 28, 2018 | 5:00 pm
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Thanks for the suggestions. What’s the hotels like?
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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 6:06 am
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Perhaps PNH is overshadowed by Siem Reap, where the international chains are entrenched for the Angkor Wat crowd.
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Old Dec 3, 2018 | 6:12 am
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Perhaps PNH is overshadowed by Siem Reap, where the international chains are entrenched for the Angkor Wat crowd.
Chains in REP;

CY By Marriott
Sofitel
Le Meridien
Raffles
Park Hyatt
Amansara

Chains in PNH

CY by Marriott (Jan 19)
Rosewood
Raffles
Sofitel

Hyatt Regency being built
IC deflagged

I'm probably missing a couple here and there but I don't see much discrepancy.
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Old Dec 4, 2018 | 8:18 am
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Some statistics, although they are totals and not exclusively higher end ones : https://asia.nikkei.com/Life-Arts/Li...-raise-the-bar

Phnom Penh, the Cambodian capital, had 317 hotels with 15,000 available rooms in late 2015, according to Bunna Realty Group, a local property company, while Siem Reap, an ever-growing tourist town developed around the Angkor Wat temple complex, had 417 hotels and 17,000 rooms. These numbers have soared in the last couple of years: A search on Booking.com -- which includes hotels, guesthouses, hostels and private accommodation for rent -- brings up a total of 514 listed properties in the capital, and a staggering 821 in Siem Reap, which has a population of just under 140,000.
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Originally Posted by dsquared37
Chains in REP;

CY By Marriott
Sofitel
Le Meridien
Raffles
Park Hyatt
Amansara

Chains in PNH

CY by Marriott (Jan 19)
Rosewood
Raffles
Sofitel

Hyatt Regency being built
IC deflagged

I'm probably missing a couple here and there but I don't see much discrepancy.
I won’t be there till April. I don’t see any CY in Phnom Penh. And I don’t see them taking any reservations for any Hyatt in PP either.

Has anyone stayed in Phnom Penh who has a good first hand referral of a hotel?
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Old Dec 6, 2018 | 1:16 am
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I won’t be there till April. I don’t see any CY in Phnom Penh. And I don’t see them taking any reservations for any Hyatt in PP either.

Has anyone stayed in Phnom Penh who has a good first hand referral of a hotel?
CY opens in Jan, as stated, and Hyatt is being built, AS STATED. Furthermore, that wasn't directed at you but a tangential question about hotels in REP vs PNH.

Reading comprehension problems?
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PNH is all about the abundant and inexpensive boutique hotels, largely located between between the Independence monument on Preah Sihanouk and Wat Phnom, running parallel to the river. There are several very charming older mansions in that area that have been converted into boutique hotels, which is also where many of the embassies are located. On my last trip, I stayed in the Pavilion hotel, which boasts two gorgeous swimming pools, as well as a few private pool suites. I ended up in a private pool suite for something like $85 a night. There is nothing like a quick dip in the private pool to cool off after a day out in the sweltering heat of PNH.

Circa 51 is another charming spot with a magnificent pool shaded by trees and very cheap rates. This is definitely the best area to stay in if you are in town on vacation. You can pretty much walk to all the main sites, which avoids the horrible traffic that has sprung up in the last 5+ years. Of course, tuk tuks and taxis are very cheap as well, but I find this to be an excellent walking city (if you can handle the heat). Definitely avoid the bigger chain hotels like IC, which are in far less ideal locations and charge absurdly higher rates. Supposedly, the airport train is now up and running (trains are definitely a work in progress here). This is definitely worth looking into, as the traffic to the airport is best avoided.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 5:27 am
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PNH is all about the abundant and inexpensive boutique hotels, largely located between between the Independence monument on Preah Sihanouk and Wat Phnom, running parallel to the river. There are several very charming older mansions in that area that have been converted into boutique hotels, which is also where many of the embassies are located. On my last trip, I stayed in the Pavilion hotel, which boasts two gorgeous swimming pools, as well as a few private pool suites. I ended up in a private pool suite for something like $85 a night. There is nothing like a quick dip in the private pool to cool off after a day out in the sweltering heat of PNH.

Circa 51 is another charming spot with a magnificent pool shaded by trees and very cheap rates. This is definitely the best area to stay in if you are in town on vacation. You can pretty much walk to all the main sites, which avoids the horrible traffic that has sprung up in the last 5+ years. Of course, tuk tuks and taxis are very cheap as well, but I find this to be an excellent walking city (if you can handle the heat). Definitely avoid the bigger chain hotels like IC, which are in far less ideal locations and charge absurdly higher rates. Supposedly, the airport train is now up and running (trains are definitely a work in progress here). This is definitely worth looking into, as the traffic to the airport is best avoided.
Thank you very much for those reviews. This is my first time in Phnom Penh. Those two hotels sound lovely. It sounds like the last one is better for a first timer to Phnom Penh, but I cannot decide for certain.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by downinit
ou are in town on vacation. You can pretty much walk to all the main sites, which avoids the horrible traffic that has sprung up in the last 5+ years. Of course, tuk tuks and taxis are very cheap as well (Pass App and Grab are your friends), but I find this to be an excellent walking city (if you can handle the heat (and not being hit by bicycles, motos, tuk tuks and other cars and SUVs that care not a whit about pedestrians... it's not as bad as SGN though)). Definitely avoid the bigger chain hotels like IC (No longer exists, was deflagged and is now "The Great Duke" supposedly catering to Chinese nationals), which are in far less ideal locations and charge absurdly higher rates. Supposedly, the airport train is now up and running (trains are definitely a work in progress here). This is definitely worth looking into, as the traffic to the airport is best avoided.
The airport train was free through earlier this year, no idea the current cost, but once at the station near the corner of Russian BLVD and Monivong you'll need to hire transportation and all the hacks and shysters hanging out there know it. Now that there's a charge for the train plus further transport necessary it doesn't appear to be an equitable travel mode. Additionally, while traffic does suck during morning and evening hours (and random hours in between), the train is not a quick mode of travel. As always, YMMV.
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Old Dec 7, 2018 | 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum
Thank you very much for those reviews. This is my first time in Phnom Penh. Those two hotels sound lovely. It sounds like the last one is better for a first timer to Phnom Penh, but I cannot decide for certain.
The two hotels are fairly close to each other, and they both have a decent variety of rooms available. Circa 51 is slightly cheaper, but you cannot go wrong with either one. Agoda usually has really good rates in SE Asia, but it is best to check the hotel website as well. It is always better to book direct if the price is the same. Enjoy your trip and be sure to check out the many markets in the area:
  • Psar Thmei ('new' - art deco masterpiece w/ souvenirs and jewelry)
  • Psar Chas ('old' - mostly a wet market but also a great glimpse into the community)
  • Psar Orussey (mostly clothes but very large and interesting)
  • Psar Toul Tom Pong (Russian market: the best place for souvenirs and gifts).
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I was just going to take a taxi from the airport. I usually don’t do public transportation, unless it’s clean and easy like the train in Dubai or in Tokyo.

Does anyone have any first hand experiences with the Queen Grand Boutique Hotel & Spa? That’s where I have booked.
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Old Dec 8, 2018 | 1:09 am
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I ditched the Grand Queen Boutique Hotel and think I found some better hotels. It’s kind of an interesting dynamic the city has of alllllll these boutique hotels that compete against each other and not having huge chains competing against each other. It’s actually kind of nice as it seems to have a more personal touch to it.

Anyway the hotels I have booked (and I can cancel) are the VMANSION Boutique Hotel, Phnom Penh and the iRoHa Garden Hotel & Resort, Phnom Penh. Both have very good reviews. It’s so hard to know which boutique hotel you’re going to like. Does anyone know any of these hotels first hand? The reviews seems good enough, but it’s always nice to hear from someone first hand.
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Old Dec 8, 2018 | 1:39 am
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Anyway the hotels I have booked (and I can cancel) are the VMANSION Boutique Hotel, Phnom Penh
I had friends stay there a month or two ago and they liked it. Never got any specifics on the place however since we were catching up on life and drink.
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