Argentine Wines 101 and Q&A thread
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Bring back as much as you care to carry, declare every single bottle and you will be fine. US Customes does not give a hoot how much wine you bring back, as long as you declare everything. At my wine store, I offer a money back guarantee on all Taxes that any US Customs Officer will want to charge... thats how well I know how the system at US Airports operates.
As for the cardboard shippers, the only ones that work are the ones that have styrofoam inserts... if they are only hardboard, I would not trust them to hold wine safely. Your best bet is to buy proper Wine Styro Carriers and just use that box as another suitcase.
Please feel free to PM or email me directly and I can provide more details.
Cheers,
Gaucho100K
As for the cardboard shippers, the only ones that work are the ones that have styrofoam inserts... if they are only hardboard, I would not trust them to hold wine safely. Your best bet is to buy proper Wine Styro Carriers and just use that box as another suitcase.
Please feel free to PM or email me directly and I can provide more details.
Cheers,
Gaucho100K


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Thanks for the info. And I'm guessing they won't be bothered with 4 bottles of Fernet Branca as long as it's delcared?
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Haha, love that comment. Just came back from a visit to BA, Villa Gesell and Mar de Plata, and the average eastern-Argentinean continues to think only wines from Rutini, Lopez and Norton are worth drinking, due to generations-old prejudices. This is from the time not too long ago here in Mendoza when most wines were mass-produced slop, before the great sophistication that started 10 to 15 years ago by serious new entries to the market. It is still customary for a social occasion to showoff your alleged wisdom by taking a bottle from these 3 older wineries. It is like most of the people who use the ssshhh for the double "ll" or "y" are frozen in time when it comes to wine. As a result these matronly brands are over-priced and over-available east of the Cuyo. Far cheaper and better wines are available, but you have to search.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
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Haha, love that comment. Just came back from a visit to BA, Villa Gesell and Mar de Plata, and the average eastern-Argentinean continues to think only wines from Rutini, Lopez and Norton are worth drinking, due to generations-old prejudices. This is from the time not too long ago here in Mendoza when most wines were mass-produced slop, before the great sophistication that started 10 to 15 years ago by serious new entries to the market. It is still customary for a social occasion to showoff your alleged wisdom by taking a bottle from these 3 older wineries. It is like most of the people who use the ssshhh for the double "ll" are frozen in time when it comes to wine. As a result these matronly brands are over-priced and over-available east of the Cuyo. Far cheaper and better wines are available, but you have to search.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
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Haha, love that comment. Just came back from a visit to BA, Villa Gesell and Mar de Plata, and the average eastern-Argentinean continues to think only wines from Rutini, Lopez and Norton are worth drinking, due to generations-old prejudices. This is from the time not too long ago here in Mendoza when most wines were mass-produced slop, before the great sophistication that started 10 to 15 years ago by serious new entries to the market. It is still customary for a social occasion to showoff your alleged wisdom by taking a bottle from these 3 older wineries. It is like most of the people who use the ssshhh for the double "ll" or "y" are frozen in time when it comes to wine. As a result these matronly brands are over-priced and over-available east of the Cuyo. Far cheaper and better wines are available, but you have to search.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
Note: Not that the "classic" 3 do not have some good wines, but much of what they push are not that great, especially those available domestically.
Its not all that simple....
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In any event, who cares....? Fernet is just as bad as the German stuff.... in case you didnt know, what the heck do you guys think the Jaeggermeister stuff is...... same dodo, different name, different place. Its all about getting hammered and still staying legal (alcohol content percentages).
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The original stuff, whatever that may be, it a huge discussion. The Branca brothers like to think they are the real thing, and they are close enough, although they probably just made it a mass market product.
In any event, who cares....? Fernet is just as bad as the German stuff.... in case you didnt know, what the heck do you guys think the Jaeggermeister stuff is...... same dodo, different name, different place. Its all about getting hammered and still staying legal (alcohol content percentages).

In any event, who cares....? Fernet is just as bad as the German stuff.... in case you didnt know, what the heck do you guys think the Jaeggermeister stuff is...... same dodo, different name, different place. Its all about getting hammered and still staying legal (alcohol content percentages).

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Agreed they are both vile... now, lets get back to Wine please !!!!!!
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Bring back as much as you care to carry, declare every single bottle and you will be fine. US Customes does not give a hoot how much wine you bring back, as long as you declare everything. At my wine store, I offer a money back guarantee on all Taxes that any US Customs Officer will want to charge... thats how well I know how the system at US Airports operates.
As for the cardboard shippers, the only ones that work are the ones that have styrofoam inserts... if they are only hardboard, I would not trust them to hold wine safely. Your best bet is to buy proper Wine Styro Carriers and just use that box as another suitcase.
As for the cardboard shippers, the only ones that work are the ones that have styrofoam inserts... if they are only hardboard, I would not trust them to hold wine safely. Your best bet is to buy proper Wine Styro Carriers and just use that box as another suitcase.

Alos, some of the better wine shipping boxes now have cardboard inserts - not the plain, cheap, single panel dividers you find at your local grocery/liquor store, but ones with full bottle enclosure. And they are recyclable. You can check the box as a checked luggage by itself.
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Also, some of the better wine shipping boxes now have cardboard inserts - not the plain, cheap, single panel dividers you find at your local grocery/liquor store, but ones with full bottle enclosure. And they are recyclable. You can check the box as a checked luggage by itself.
The only exception to the above are some higher-end specialist luggage like hard-case wine carriers that will include plastic with a relevant metal(ic) frame... but for any sort of shipper box that has a cardboard outer housing or no housing at all, you must have Styrofoam as part of the solution, else I would have serious second thoughts.
Perhaps I misread/misunderstood you post and the boxes you are making reference to have some sort of other protective layer..... would love to hear more details as I like to know about good wine packaging solutions.
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To clarify, US custom duties is based on the total value in addition to the quantity. As long as you declare all purchases and wine (just list x bottles of wine) and the combined value, and if it's less than $800-1000 total they will waive the duties. However, knowing what Gaucho has to offer, you may be testing the limit. 

To be more specific, I have at least one client per month that takes back 2 or 3 cases (24 to 36 bottles) of high end Argentine wine to the USA. These purchases are alwas very well north of US$1000, the average price of these cases are about US$1200 per case. So the value of these purchases is almost always north of US$2400.
I have been offering the money back guarantee for Duty and Taxes for over 5 years now, and have been called upon to make a refund in less than 2% of the instances.
Conclusion... Im not disputing that the rules/fine print may very well be whats been posted above, Im just saying that in 98% of the instances they are not enforced. Declare every single bottle you have with you and you will be fine, as noted, almost every time.

