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Gaucho100K-- great topic. I am planning to go to BA and Mar del Plata and will have a few days flexible. I'm staying at the Sheraton both places so accomodation is not the issue--but I have a few questions:
1. My wife wants to visit the pampas--is it possbile to do that over a couple of days? 2. I know the Sheraton Liberatador is also available--but is it too far away or is it a seedy location? 3. Is it worth going to Ushuaia for 2 days or should I try some other area? Say Bariloche? 4. Can I book tours easily in BA ? Are the hotel agencies reasonable? |
Originally Posted by ac777
Gaucho100K-- great topic. I am planning to go to BA and Mar del Plata and will have a few days flexible. I'm staying at the Sheraton both places so accomodation is not the issue--but I have a few questions:
1. My wife wants to visit the pampas--is it possbile to do that over a couple of days? 2. I know the Sheraton Liberatador is also available--but is it too far away or is it a seedy location? 3. Is it worth going to Ushuaia for 2 days or should I try some other area? Say Bariloche? 4. Can I book tours easily in BA ? Are the hotel agencies reasonable? 3. Ushuaia, unless you want to go skiing in Bariloche. 4. Easy to book well-priced (very reasonable package) tours, but don't necessarily rely on the in-hotel travel agencies for such. |
help
I have a free ticket and would like to visit B/A for two or three days, any place that you recommend that is safe and close to everything as far as lodging? thanks for your help
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Originally Posted by coeur 05
I have a free ticket and would like to visit B/A for two or three days, any place that you recommend that is safe and close to everything as far as lodging? thanks for your help
Given that cabs are cheap, stay at the Hilton. |
Thanks GUWonder. The Liberatador is out!! Any other suggestions re BA itself?
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Originally Posted by ac777
Thanks GUWonder. The Liberatador is out!! Any other suggestions re BA itself?
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
Your routing is indeed good news, as those flights are -as you say- the most likely to have the best loads. Lets hope that SW can still generate enough cash flow to keep its jets refueled until this entire drug fiasco is further clarified. Right now, they are also fighting to retain the funding of the investor that arranged financing for the second 747 that they are supposed to take delivery later in the year.
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A difference of opinion.
Originally Posted by GUWonder
...The Sheraton Liberatdor is in a more "run-down" semi-business area, but it's not seedy or dangerous if you use common sense...
I doubt many porteños would describe the area around the corner of Cordoba and Maipu as being "run-down". The beautiful Galleria Pacifica is on Cordoba, just down the street. It seems the more sterile the area, the more attractive it is to North Americans. While the Puerto Madero area is nice - similar in some ways to the rejuvenated Jersey City Exchange Place district, it isn't the type of place where one can just walk outside the hotel and be in the midst of it all. I would find it rather tiresome to have to take a cab to almost anywhere of interest. |
Originally Posted by flyme2
Were that the case, much of NYC aside from Central Park and the Upper East Side would have to be described in the same manner. I won't even mention Alphabet City or the East Village.
I doubt many porteños would describe the area around the corner of Cordoba and Maipu as being "run-down". The beautiful Galleria Pacifica is on Cordoba, just down the street. It seems the more sterile the area, the more attractive it is to North Americans. While the Puerto Madero area is nice - similar in some ways to the rejuvenated Jersey City Exchange Place district, it isn't the type of place where one can just walk outside the hotel and be in the midst of it all. I would find it rather tiresome to have to take a cab to almost anywhere of interest. .... and the walk from the Hilton to Florida/Galerias Pacificos does not take more than 20 minutes from the Hilton either; and the walk from the Sheraton BA H&CC is even quicker (once you cross the main street). In any event, one is going to have to take a cab (or try the subway and buses) if they want to go to Palermo (and Palermo Chico and Viejo) or to any of the other barrios. [I get my dry cleaning and laundry done off Maipu.... and most of the portenos I know would suggest that one stay in Puerto Madero rather than in Retiro.] That said, you are right; certain parts of Retiro remind me of Tribeca (not at its best but not at its worst either). [And I am not fan of Central Park South. :D Too much horse stink in the mornings when I used to live there.] |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
The walk from the Sheraton Libertador to Galerias Pacificos is not as attractive (or touristy) as the walk from the Sheraton B.A. H&C Center through San Martin Plaza and down Florida to Galerias Pacificos. Being in the middle of a bunch of office buildings and a hodge podge of smaller stores/buildings might have its "charm", but it's also not necessarily the most charming area when a protest breaks out and people are banging pots and more.
As far as protests goes, they can spring up anywhere. Witness the recent one in Recoleta involving the artisans and jewelry vendors. The more common sites are usually closer to Congresso, although a couple of years ago I was stuck in one on Santa Fe in Barrio Norte. A month ago, some visiting friends of mine said they were witness to one in Puerto Madero, but I think they may have been a bit confused as to where they actually were. You're also right in saying that many porteños would rather stay/live in Puerto Madero. For many of them, the open spaces and trendy new highrise buildings are desireable and living there is a definite status symbol. My philosophy, however, is to immerse myself in the local way of life, no matter what foreign city I visit or live in. Were I to isolate myself in a quasi North American enclave that is not truly an accurate representation of the culture and city I'm visiting, I would be doing myself a disservice. I guess I'm more of a Tribeca person. |
American Falcon?
Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
At this point, I would stick exclusively with Aerolineas Argentinas. Yes, their fares are more expensive.... but you will probably avoid some nasty headaches if things continue to go wrong for SW.
I know nothing about American Falcon, aside from what I see on their website. Are they legit? Are they a "reasonable fare" carrier? Are they in danger of financial collapse, or safety issues? While I clearly see the security in going with Aerolineas, it's so tough to justify US$500 RT/person for a weekend trip to Mendoza. Would love to find some possible alternative....if one exists! |
I havent heard anything negative about American Falcon. Having said that, Ive never flown them either. Sorry I cant be of more help.
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Take Me Out To The... Parrillon de Recoleta
Managed to make our way to El Parrillon de Recoleta. But first the cabbie had to run us up to the 1200 block...a misunderstanding, to be sure. Fine Bife de chorizo and lomo, and the ensalada monumental—excellente. We had the Catena Zapata Alamos Malbec. Interesting—similar to a shiraz/merlot maybe, full mouth feel but not huge bodied, soft, lots of fruit, with a bit of a peppery finish. A little breathing and it gets quite mellow in the glass. As noted—quite absent the oakiness we norteamericanos are accustomed to.
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Southern Winds - update & further downgrade
The cash crunch for Juan Maggio´s airline is now even more evident and things are getting messy. SW is behind on salary payments to its employees, which are refusing to work and have started picket lines here at AEP. 3 flights scheduled this morning were cacncelled, including one to Tucuman and another to Mendoza. :td:
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Originally Posted by flyme2
Were that the case, much of NYC aside from Central Park and the Upper East Side would have to be described in the same manner. I won't even mention Alphabet City or the East Village.
I doubt many porteños would describe the area around the corner of Cordoba and Maipu as being "run-down". The beautiful Galleria Pacifica is on Cordoba, just down the street. It seems the more sterile the area, the more attractive it is to North Americans. While the Puerto Madero area is nice - similar in some ways to the rejuvenated Jersey City Exchange Place district, it isn't the type of place where one can just walk outside the hotel and be in the midst of it all. I would find it rather tiresome to have to take a cab to almost anywhere of interest. |
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