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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
I dont want to play "guess the future" on this issue, but from what Ive been reading, this incident is related to wrongdoing by employees and should not have any relevant effects on the operations of the company itself. I say this in light of the other posts on this thread. SW has profitability issues yes, but the fact some of its people chose to deal drugs is an entirely separate issue.
My best guess is that pax ticketed for the next few months will have no problems, but I personally would "wait awhile" before booking travel, say, 6 months in advance (unfortunate because the best deals on Southern Winds often involve advance purchase fares). Of course, if your fare is only 100 bucks and you charge it to a credit card, I guess you can roll the dice. |
Greetings
I'll be in BaAs March 11-17 and I'd be happy to meet up with anyone. I also speak Spanish. I'll be staying at an apartment near Suipacha and Cordoba I've been there before but I have some questions: 1) Are the shops on the 600 block of Murrillo street the best place for leather goods? They seemed a bit pricy to me. Someone mentioned an "Once" area. Where is that? Any other ideas for best prices on leather 2) Can anyone recommend a good local travel agent? I'd rather the agent book the trip to Iguasu for me. I thought about booking when I first get in but I don't have a brazilian visa. USd100 seems a bit steep to check out water dropping. I want to get around that. Also I'll need a hotel room at Iguasu and I'd rather be prepared. How far in advance do you need to book? Will it get crowed during my stay? When is the high season for tourist at the falls? Thanks Eddie |
Originally Posted by iahphx
Drug smuggling by airline employees is a widespread problem, but it usually involves the low level workers (often baggage handlers). Having top management involved is unusual. As I said, if the conspiracy does reach as far as the airline president, I would think it could eventually bring down the airline (the news reports say he is under investigation, but that is obviously very different from saying he was involved). Gaucho, you're obviously much closer to the situation than I am, but if a similar situation were to happen to a upstart US airline, I would have little confidence in their longterm ability to survive (and, from personal experience, I know that upstart South American airlines usually fail anyway!).
My best guess is that pax ticketed for the next few months will have no problems, but I personally would "wait awhile" before booking travel, say, 6 months in advance (unfortunate because the best deals on Southern Winds often involve advance purchase fares). Of course, if your fare is only 100 bucks and you charge it to a credit card, I guess you can roll the dice. In any event, my 2 cents on this is that, apart from the relative damage to the image of Southern Winds, the company should not have immediate operational problems that are directly related to this. SW is receiving subsidies from the Argentine Government (it took over routes of other carriers under this agreement), and is actually expanding some of its operations. It recently took on a 747 as part of this fleet expansion. Hope this helps those considering issuing a ticket make a better informed decision. |
Leather Goods - a few things to consider
I hope I dont get myself into hot water for this, but I assure all of you that Im posting this below in the best of spirits.
While Buenos Aires in particular, and Argentina in general is currently home to some great bargains, I would like to caution visitors about buying fashion items in some locations. Not that you will do anything thats terribly wrong, and after all, what one wears is an entirely personal decision... but the "Once" area and also the shops at Murillo Street (Murillo 666 was one a very famous place) do have some issues. 1) leather quality is very variable... some pieces are good, others OK, many are lousy. those who dont know leather, beware. 2) workmanship is usually sloppy. make sure you inspect your garment thoroughly, and try all zippers, look at linings, etc. 3) styles are not always up to the latest trends, this will be more important to some and not at all to others, but a leather jacket is sometimes a fashion statement so I dont think this should be overlooked. One way to see things is that, even if you choose to shop in the more established areas and in better stores, your dollar or Euro will still go a long way in Buenos Aires. Yes, the more established stores will charge you more, but dont forget that sometimes you get what you pay for. Just my two cents..... |
Originally Posted by iahphx
Drug smuggling by airline employees is a widespread problem, but it usually involves the low level workers (often baggage handlers). Having top management involved is unusual. As I said, if the conspiracy does reach as far as the airline president, I would think it could eventually bring down the airline (the news reports say he is under investigation, but that is obviously very different from saying he was involved). Gaucho, you're obviously much closer to the situation than I am, but if a similar situation were to happen to a upstart US airline, I would have little confidence in their longterm ability to survive (and, from personal experience, I know that upstart South American airlines usually fail anyway!).
Of course PanAm too did not survive..... but for unrelated reasons. ;)
Originally Posted by Gaucho
The Airline's president has been working with the justice department here and is providing all available information to ensure the events are cleared up. It seems that there may be some members of the Aeronautical Police based in EZE that played along to allow the 'goods' to pass the security channels. The interesting twist is that the investigations have now led authorities to believe that this shipment that was discovered was surely not the first, so this means that Madrid Airport security was also involved. This will be an interesting story to follow....
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Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
....One way to see things is that, even if you choose to shop in the more established areas and in better stores, your dollar or Euro will still go a long way in Buenos Aires. Yes, the more established stores will charge you more, but dont forget that sometimes you get what you pay for.
Just my two cents..... I agree 100%! You don't have to go to the cheapest shop to get a good deal. Even in better stores, leather goods are not too expensive. We checked some shops in the Recoleta area and we have seen some nice leather goods, and we finally purchased shoes and a bag for Mrs. USAFAN at Lopez Taibo...and we got the sales tax back... |
Thanks for a great Thread. Off to BA tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by USAFAN
Gaucho100K:
I agree 100%! You don't have to go to the cheapest shop to get a good deal. Even in better stores, leather goods are not too expensive. We checked some shops in the Recoleta area and we have seen some nice leather goods, and we finally purchased shoes and a bag for Mrs. USAFAN at Lopez Taibo...and we got the sales tax back... |
Peninsula Valdes Estancia
Originally Posted by ellielou
Just finished reading all 30 pages --oops, make that 38 pages!--of this thread--started really skimming around p. 25 or so, so forgive me if this has been addressed (also, this isn't a strickliy BsAs Q, so forgive me if I've posted in the wrong place):
I'm in the very preliminary planning stage to a trip to Argentina and Uruguay for 3 weeks in November. (I already have the award tickets.) Besides BsAs, I plan to go to Iguazu, and also to Peninsula Valdez and Perito Moreno areas. First, is it possible to fly from Valdez area to PM w/o backtracking to EZE? Second, I would like to stay in estancias in/near those areas as well. I've googled every possible confiiguration I can think of, only to find info either all in Spanish, estancias that are included as parts of tours, or estancias that seem to cost as much as my monthly mortgage. Can anyone recommend estancias in those areas, or a general site that could help me out. BTW, this thread is truly incredible....thanks, everyone. Ellen |
Originally Posted by Gaucho100K
....if you are willing to pay cash, the chances you will get a discount will be greater.
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thanks for help on estancias
Thank you syzygy8, iahphx, and of course, gaucho 100K for responding to my query. It'll be months before I'm off to Argentina, so there is no doubt that I will return for more expert advice.
happy trails, Ellen |
Originally Posted by delta50
returned last week from 10 days in Uruguay and Bs. As. I enjoyed the trip.......Other than that, we enjoyed the trip. Travelers just might want to exercise even more caution than usual.
Despite recent economic hardships for Portenos, Buenos Aires is one of the great cities of the world, with wonderful friendly, intelligent residents and is not to be missed. The 2 weeks until I'm back are torture! |
Originally Posted by ellielou
Thank you syzygy8, iahphx, and of course, gaucho 100K for responding to my query. It'll be months before I'm off to Argentina, so there is no doubt that I will return for more expert advice.
happy trails, Ellen |
Buenos Aires Apartments
Can someone please inform me of contacts for BA apartment rentals. Also, which Southern Argentinian town is the a good launching spot for mountain treking and glacier exploring? Thank you!
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Originally Posted by Freefly
Can someone please inform me of contacts for BA apartment rentals. Also, which Southern Argentinian town is the a good launching spot for mountain treking and glacier exploring? Thank you!
http://www.bytargentina.com/ |
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