Centurion card (USA) refresh. Some benefits removed/added. $5k annual fee.
#876
Join Date: Aug 2021
Posts: 9
So it seems that AMEX made some changes to its phone system. I had a wallet & card stolen and needed to call in this morning to get the stolen card canceled. I had been avoiding calling recently because every time I was getting a recording telling me to wait at least six minutes and the few times I waited it ended up being much longer.
Now when you call you are given three options: travel, concierge or servicing. That's how the Canadian system was always set up, and it generally worked well (aside from the fact that travel was contracted out and they weren't great).
I don't if this system is new in the US or going back to the way it was done before, but the good news is that a representative picked up as soon as I selected 'servicing'. I'm hoping that this means they've made some positive changes to improve wait times and not an isolated positive experience! The representative told me that she was a servicing specialist and would not be taking calls for travel or other requests. Maybe this is to take some of the pressure off of the assigned teams, because she said that your assigned team members will still try to pick up if you select travel or concierge.
Now when you call you are given three options: travel, concierge or servicing. That's how the Canadian system was always set up, and it generally worked well (aside from the fact that travel was contracted out and they weren't great).
I don't if this system is new in the US or going back to the way it was done before, but the good news is that a representative picked up as soon as I selected 'servicing'. I'm hoping that this means they've made some positive changes to improve wait times and not an isolated positive experience! The representative told me that she was a servicing specialist and would not be taking calls for travel or other requests. Maybe this is to take some of the pressure off of the assigned teams, because she said that your assigned team members will still try to pick up if you select travel or concierge.
#877
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: BOS
Posts: 2,315
I experienced the same thing recently and was scratching my head. Since they eliminated dedicated travel counselors (and they were not outsourced - they were experienced AMEX travel agents who were very seasoned) who do you get if you select “travel” versus “concierge”. I picked servicing and got the usual sub who couldn’t really help and said she would reach out to my team. So other than the recording I didn’t think anything had changed.
#880
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Southern California
Programs: Alaska MVP 75K, Delta Plat, Bonvoy Ambasador, Hilton diamond.
Posts: 527
The days of AMEX backing a centurion card holder "to the bitter end" in a dispute are gone. It's the standard dispute resolution mechanism these days with no extra care given to examining the details of the dispute. If you are disputing something with one of AMEX's partners like Delta, Saks, etc...you will likely loose any dispute short of glaring fraud.
#881
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
The days of AMEX backing a centurion card holder "to the bitter end" in a dispute are gone. It's the standard dispute resolution mechanism these days with no extra care given to examining the details of the dispute. If you are disputing something with one of AMEX's partners like Delta, Saks, etc...you will likely loose any dispute short of glaring fraud.
edit: Saks actually demanded I take the box of rotting, stinking seafood back to a FedEx store and ship it back to them first. I was really tempted...
#882
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
#883
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Redondo Beach, CA USA
Programs: UA 1KMM, Bonvoy LTE+A, HH D, Nat'l EE, Hertz Plat, Avis PC
Posts: 3,713
#884
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
#885
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Southern California
Programs: Alaska MVP 75K, Delta Plat, Bonvoy Ambasador, Hilton diamond.
Posts: 527
That was not my experience...
I bought a Rimowa trunk. Saks sends a beat up suitcase in used condition, clearly a used return. When contacting them thy first accused me of causing the damage but agreed to exchange it if I returned the original. They sent me a USPS mailing label. USPS looses the package in transit. Saks tells me to pound sand and to file a claim with the USPS. USPS informs me their label had no insurance (on a $2000 item) and that i can't even file a claim since I'm technically not the shipper. Saks washes their hands off it. Amex backs Saks in 2 back to back charge-back disputes under different categories and Centurion customer care shrugs about it.
It took filing a complaint with the BBB in New York to get Saks to send me a gift cad for the value of the lost item. Amex can 'eat' $250 as a courtesy...$2,000 in an actual charge back is a different story.
I bought a Rimowa trunk. Saks sends a beat up suitcase in used condition, clearly a used return. When contacting them thy first accused me of causing the damage but agreed to exchange it if I returned the original. They sent me a USPS mailing label. USPS looses the package in transit. Saks tells me to pound sand and to file a claim with the USPS. USPS informs me their label had no insurance (on a $2000 item) and that i can't even file a claim since I'm technically not the shipper. Saks washes their hands off it. Amex backs Saks in 2 back to back charge-back disputes under different categories and Centurion customer care shrugs about it.
It took filing a complaint with the BBB in New York to get Saks to send me a gift cad for the value of the lost item. Amex can 'eat' $250 as a courtesy...$2,000 in an actual charge back is a different story.