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Originally Posted by pgh234
(Post 37191542)
I understand enough about the unpredictably of upgrades and that a Saturday of a holiday weekend is favorable. I just don't understand how I could be ahead of 12 people on an upgrade list as a Gold on a Basic Economy fare. Did my 40k LPs really put 12 golds behind me who were also on BE fares? That seems extreme.
ETA: Also, especially on a DFW leisure route on a very off-peak Saturday, there could have been a number of AA employees in that 12 people below you on the list. |
Originally Posted by ryanbriar
(Post 37189816)
I’ve found that GPT is decent at taking a copy of the website dumped into Excel and converting it into a table without much prompting. I’ve done this every quarter-ish to get the rolling number / breakout of LPs by category.
Now you just click on activity->change dates->custom date range->set start date to a year ago and set end date to today’s date. This will give you the rolling LPs for the last 12 months. |
Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 37191557)
ETA: Also, especially on a DFW leisure route on a very off-peak Saturday, there could have been a number of AA employees in that 12 people below you on the list.
On the full PALL list, an employee traveling on a pass for fun (not NRPS) would not be on the "upgrade" portion of the Priority List but rather the "standby" portion ranked by status, D1, D2, D2P, etc. regardless of cabin desired. Would think that only the NRPS passengers would show on the upgrade list and then at priority UPGE. Doubt there's much official company business going to Cabo on a weekend. And if there was, I guarantee you it would get someone's attention!
Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 37191557)
It's entirely possible, if you have 40k LP since March 1 then you're most likely ahead of other Gold's who may have only earned 40k LP over the entire last year. Also the fact that you're on a BE fare doesn't matter, all that matters is your running 12-month LP count.
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 37191557)
ETA: Also, especially on a DFW leisure route on a very off-peak Saturday, there could have been a number of AA employees in that 12 people below you on the list.
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Originally Posted by pgh234
(Post 37191635)
That is one of the main parts of my question. Do non-revs show on the upgrade and standby list like they do for DL? Again, there were 12 remaining on the UG list and zero on the standby list. Therefore, I assumed they were all revenue golds. Also, I was unaware that fare class had nothing to do with upgrade priority within each elite status...and that it was solely based on LPs within each status class. I guess I assumed BE was a penalty.
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Originally Posted by pgh234
(Post 37191635)
That is one of the main parts of my question. Do non-revs show on the upgrade and standby list like they do for DL? Again, there were 12 remaining on the UG list and zero on the standby list. Therefore, I assumed they were all revenue golds. Also, I was unaware that fare class had nothing to do with upgrade priority within each elite status...and that it was solely based on LPs within each status class. I guess I assumed BE was a penalty.
Originally Posted by Herb687
(Post 37191688)
I don't know how the cleaned-up/sanitized version of the Priority List that the general public can partially view is structured (behind the scenes in native Sabre, it's just one Priority List) but on the full Priority List employees traveling for pleasure on personal standby passes are on what would be considered the standby portion of the list at priority code D1, D2, etc. regardless of desired cabin and not the upgrade portion of the list.
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Originally Posted by JJeffrey
(Post 37191743)
I was under the impression (but I could be wrong, I'm by no means an AA employee travel expert) that once any D1/D2/etc. were confirmed and checked in, that they could be added to the upgrade list, but would be sorted below any normal elite revenue pax from a priority standpoint. Similar to how it works for normal pax, you can only be added to the standby list at first, but once that clears, you can then be added to the upgrade list.
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Originally Posted by pgh234
(Post 37191542)
I understand enough about the unpredictably of upgrades and that a Saturday of a holiday weekend is favorable. I just don't understand how I could be ahead of 12 people on an upgrade list as a Gold on a Basic Economy fare. Did my 40k LPs really put 12 golds behind me who were also on BE fares? That seems extreme.
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Trip wound up rescheduled (tentatively to end of the month). New flights are cheaper yet and objectively better - only 1 connection both ways. But no lie-flat upgrade possibility for this one - not gonna lie head says "1.5-2.5 hour single connection, getting in before 8 pm is perfect" but heart says "BUT YOU ALMOST NEVER GET TO FLY IN THE BIG PLANES! 2 Connections and getting in at midnight is so much better!" |
Originally Posted by WannaTheater
(Post 37189509)
I believe he means the last 12 months of rolling LPs, which is not listed anywhere. You can determine it by clicking a bunch of buttons, and modifying the activity period (fill in the two date fields with the calendar pickers) to get the results. It would be easy if the app/website posted it, or provided a radio button for “12 month rolling LPs.”
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Guess I was wondering if success rate on upgrades would go down for me now that my rolling LP is likely to trend down to what should be a more steady level at ~250k from the absurd (to me) 410k I wound up getting to during the 24-25 window. Batting 1.000 in 2025 (including some flights that really did not appear to have space available up until just before or even on the plane), I think only missed one in 2nd half of 2024. Because of where we live / work / family lives, bulk of our travel is usually involving a regional or smaller-hub destination vs. what I suspect are the more elite-heavy routes, so maybe the rolling LP decline won't be much of an issue for me.
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07/10 - PHL-SAN - When the list appeared, we were 1 and 2 with me as EXP and her with no status and 3 available. Both of us just cleared at T-9.
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1. You book with P2 on the same reservation (e.g. press checkout only once with multiple passengers added) and do nothing
2. You book with P2 on the same reservation and call in to "split the reservation" 3. You book yourself, then you book P2, then you call in to "connect the reservations" What is the difference in upgrade scenarios of all 3? |
Originally Posted by lowkeyflyer
(Post 37196824)
1. You book with P2 on the same reservation (e.g. press checkout only once with multiple passengers added) and do nothing
2. You book with P2 on the same reservation and call in to "split the reservation" 3. You book yourself, then you book P2, then you call in to "connect the reservations" What is the difference in upgrade scenarios of all 3? There is no difference in #2 and #3. When you call, you tell the agent that "separate is ok", they will set up the request such that if only one seat is released you will get it. |
Originally Posted by WannaTheater
(Post 37191569)
The new app/website makes it easier than prior where you no longer have to build the table (i.e. click load more, load more, load more 25 times…)
Now you just click on activity->change dates->custom date range->set start date to a year ago and set end date to today’s date. This will give you the rolling LPs for the last 12 months. |
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