Flights with no service at all in (domestic) First
#16
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN
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With the turbulence areas, it's interesting to see in real time the pockets of turbulence across the flight path.
Small jolts...possibly tapping the iPad, or it being moved, will result in a white circle
light turbulence will be yellow,
Moderate will be orange
Severe will be red.
It definitely gives a better perspective than it did 5+ years ago where the pilots would just say "we have 2s and 3s along our path today" which basically didn't mean much to the cabin crews. With this app, they can show our altitude and the areas of real-time reported turbulence from other aircraft of all airlines.
Turbulence showing along a ORD-LAX route
#18
Formally known as reinmedia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: El Segundo | Honolulu
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I was on LAS-LAX in F tonight and I switched seats with a mother so she could sit with her daughter which the cabin crew was aware of. The FA went around after take-off by status to take drink orders and completely forgot that I had switched (she had no status) and he completely skipped my row. First-world problems for a 37-minute flight, but I was pretty annoyed. So yes, no service for some on a short flight.
#19
Join Date: Mar 2010
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It has been a couple of years, but when I see these examples I always think of the FA who did a drink service plus provided a fig bar (no idea where she found those, there was no snack basket) in F on PHL-LGA. That is under 100 miles.
It's totally up to the FA and those that don't care bring down the entire group.
It's totally up to the FA and those that don't care bring down the entire group.
#20
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 140
Don't get me started with AA's horribly poor F&B service. Since the pandemic it's literally any excuse not to offer F&B, even paid. Any short hop I expect nothing, even in F, so if I get even a drink I'm pleasantly surprised. Nevermind, as someone else mentioned, you can get a full hot meal on a 1 hour BA flight.
I frequent LAX/SNA-DFW-Anywhere and it irks me to no end that a 3-3.5 hour flight (LAX/SNA-DFW) has no food for purchase in Y, and DFW to almost anywhere East only has a snack tray in F. But that's a whole other topic.
I frequent LAX/SNA-DFW-Anywhere and it irks me to no end that a 3-3.5 hour flight (LAX/SNA-DFW) has no food for purchase in Y, and DFW to almost anywhere East only has a snack tray in F. But that's a whole other topic.
#21
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Don't get me started with AA's horribly poor F&B service. Since the pandemic it's literally any excuse not to offer F&B, even paid. Any short hop I expect nothing, even in F, so if I get even a drink I'm pleasantly surprised. Nevermind, as someone else mentioned, you can get a full hot meal on a 1 hour BA flight.
I frequent LAX/SNA-DFW-Anywhere and it irks me to no end that a 3-3.5 hour flight (LAX/SNA-DFW) has no food for purchase in Y, and DFW to almost anywhere East only has a snack tray in F. But that's a whole other topic.
I frequent LAX/SNA-DFW-Anywhere and it irks me to no end that a 3-3.5 hour flight (LAX/SNA-DFW) has no food for purchase in Y, and DFW to almost anywhere East only has a snack tray in F. But that's a whole other topic.
#22
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Houston
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I flew PHX-TUS-PHX last week, which has to be on the shorter flights on the network. Both flights had a full PDB offered on the ground, with nuts. On PHX-TUS a full bar service was offered in the air but on TUS-PHX the pilots told us that there would be no service due to turbulence. Good service all round and how it should be done on these really short flights. No service at all is not acceptable and I would write in with a complaint.
#23
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 127
I rarely get service either direction CLT-BHM. Since I always carry a water bottle, and just want to read in peace, it's not a big deal. And, since I'm in first 100% on upgrades, I'm happy enough for the extra space. The one time there was service was very memorable. The woman behind me got fairly hammered and had a lovely temper tantrum in the middle of the aisle when we were stuck on the tarmac and she really needed to use the bathroom.
#24
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: PHL
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Posts: 347
It has been a couple of years, but when I see these examples I always think of the FA who did a drink service plus provided a fig bar (no idea where she found those, there was no snack basket) in F on PHL-LGA. That is under 100 miles.
#25
Join Date: Feb 2024
Location: CVG/BOS
Programs: AA Plat. Pro
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I fly NYC-BOS a good bit and usually don't expect much on that short route but I am constantly surprised. A couple days ago I was on JFK-BOS and we got a full drink/nits service and the FA actaully did a second round of drinks (plus a PBD)!
#26
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: DSM
Posts: 59
I was served 4 rum and diet sodas ORD-DSM (Envoy). 1 pre-departure and after 2 more in flight she asked me if I wanted another even though I could tell we were already descending. Her response was, "I'll bring it in plastic so I don't have to take it from you before we land" This flight is normally less than an hour in the air. My experience is that I get better drink service on the regionals.
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#28
Join Date: Oct 2022
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#29
formerly wchinchen
Join Date: Sep 2013
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If low cost Whizz Air can serve food and drinks for a one hour flight, pretty sure its a US carrier cultural issue.
#30
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I have routinely gotten great service to include PDB and in-flight beverage (often will have nuts/biscoff or a snack basket as well, though I have been told by an FA some time ago that the basket usually only happens when a prior leg for that airplane was some longer flight and there were residual snacks) flying from my home airport GSP<->CLT which is maybe an 80-100 mile trip. I am almost certain it is operated by American Eagle. WeekendTraveler you are a GSP guy too, right? Similar experience?