New AA Award Chart with Dynamic Pricing

Old Nov 5, 2023, 1:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Dave Noble
Just letting a hold drop if deciding it is not wanted doesn't require paaying taxes and then having to claim them back
That's true. But for flights on AA metal -- which these are -- that refund is usually automatic.
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Old Nov 5, 2023, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
I think the point being made was that you don't need to be sure of travel dates before you book a fully refundable ticket
Yah, I get it. I don't want to deal with the tax refund issue. AA is usually good about it, but sometimes there are issues. And the taxes on this were not insignificant - $200+ on travel to/from the UK.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 7:46 am
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Lucky?

I was lurking for a miles ticket from MIA to BCN. Looking around the end of October. I normally look when they open up. I found one on a Monday for 130,500 miles and $5.6. When I saw that , I booked it immediately The very next day, the same ticket was 349.000, and most of the other days were around 300. I was planning on doing premium economy because I wont spend 300,000 miles for a ticket. Was it a fluke or does this occasionally happen.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 8:35 am
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Pricing is dynamic and can change quite a bit. Always worth looking and keeping an eye out.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 9:03 am
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While not quite as outrageous as some of AA's pricing I don't think I'd ever consider spending 130k for a one-way business award to Europe "lucky".
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 1:31 pm
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130K can do USA - ASIA Round trip in Biz on partners.. or at least use to ...maybe still can...
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by 350zrx330
130K can do USA - ASIA Round trip in Biz on partners.. or at least use to ...maybe still can...
Still can, easily, and it's only 120k to Asia 1.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 2:27 pm
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Yeah, a few weeks ago I booked a couple of PHX-MAD and PHX-BCN for 57.5K miles (to cover multiple dates), so Spain is easy to get.
On AA, so no BA surcharge.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 2:50 pm
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OP I suggest you continue to look periodically - saver award availability is generally not at it's highest when the booking window opens anymore.
If you can travel Mon/Tues in October and are willing to connect in MAD, IB seems to currently offer a J seat (57.5k) + ~$150 surcharge.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by lrdpenn
OP I suggest you continue to look periodically - saver award availability is generally not at it's highest when the booking window opens anymore.
If you can travel Mon/Tues in October and are willing to connect in MAD, IB seems to currently offer a J seat (57.5k) + ~$150 surcharge.

this.
since AA got rid of redeposit fees, you have no reason not to snag a 'backup' ticket and look for better deals. I typically found that once you get closer (maybe a few weeks to even days) before travel, stuff opens up. Ive snagged web special tickets on american metal for LESS than saver awards in biz to europe this way.
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Old Dec 8, 2023, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by wesport
I was lurking for a miles ticket from MIA to BCN. Looking around the end of October. I normally look when they open up. I found one on a Monday for 130,500 miles and $5.6. When I saw that , I booked it immediately The very next day, the same ticket was 349.000, and most of the other days were around 300. I was planning on doing premium economy because I wont spend 300,000 miles for a ticket. Was it a fluke or does this occasionally happen.
If you don't mind connecting in MAD, this option is currently available on both October 27 and 28:

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Old Dec 10, 2023, 7:56 am
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I have done the connection once in Madrid. Had enough time, but the hike was exhausting. I had the miles to burn and I thought well, 130,000 is much better than 349,000
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Old Dec 18, 2023, 12:55 pm
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I had 5 pax booked on YVR-LHR with BA (the surcharge ex YVR was only $330 so not a bad deal) for Dec 24, but have been carefully looking at Dec 23-25 as more award space has opened up out of our home airport (LAX). Sure enough, LAX-LHR on AA metal (AA134) opened up, 4x F and 3x J this morning for Dec 24. I mentioned up thread that when these show up you can usually see them with partners (at partner saver level) and you can get true Saaver pricing w AA if you get a BA/IB segment added out of London the following day (but if booked as just the AA segment they are often far more miles). We were able to rebook 3 in the business class cabin as Saaver awards w 57.5k AA miles each and then used AS miles to grab 2 F awards (85k each). Not a bad deal, we get about $1650 in BA surcharges back.
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Old Dec 19, 2023, 1:30 pm
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Are miles just worth a penny a mile now?

I have really massive credit card spend, millions a year thanks to business spending, and I spread it out over various cards so I basically always have good options.

Lately I've been noticing that redemptions are pretty much always just 100x the cash fare for the same flight. I focus the most on AA but I'm seeing the same thing at UA and DL too when I look. Of course there are exceptions, for example I just got four flagship transcon SFO/JFK in business for 29.5k miles each. It's a 5:30am flight but that works for this trip so whatever.

But it seems like those are almost nonexistant at this point and they're invariably flights that nobody really wants, where I would have been upgraded anyways.

I know partner awards still exist but they're on the way out too.

For all the investment in CC partnerships it seems like the airlines are playing a slightly dangerous game. If they can't give more than a penny a mile there's literally zero reason whatsoever to not just use something like Chase points or any of the various 2%+ cash options.

Are they just counting on everyone being too stupid to figure that out?
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Old Dec 19, 2023, 1:47 pm
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Deals are there. I booked a 900 USD one way for 7.5k miles a few weeks ago.

In general, long haul AA metal J redemptions are not a great use of miles anymore. However, even there, there are good redemptions periodically.
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