New AA Award Chart with Dynamic Pricing

Old Apr 5, 23, 1:20 pm
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New AA Award Chart with Dynamic Pricing

Did the redemption rates for Business Awards to Europe just double? I have been watching several routes to Europe in bus and first for several months and while some days were very expensive now all days appear to be at the max. Did my AA miles just suffer a big devaluation? Is this the new normal with AA?
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:07 pm
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New AA Award Chart with Dynamic Pricing

CNBC is reporting that the new dynamic chart will go live today and it appears to be live on the AA site.

Important Note: The partner award chart seems to be unchanged for now, but the new "starting at" prices could be indicative of where that's going as the disparity compared with AA metal is now quite large.

Unclear how they would price an award with a mix of AA and partner metal for those of us (i.e. the majority) not living by an AA hub.

Also unclear how this impacts using partner miles to redeem on AA metal. At minimum, using the AA site to check availability for booking this way becomes a challenge.


International Biz/First seem to have some brutal changes, with the "starting at" prices being higher than previous saver levels.

Example Starting At Pricing in Biz/First
  • Europe - Starting at 75K in Business, used to be 57.5K
  • Deep South America - Starting at 90K, used to be 57.5K
  • Asia, Middle East, Pacific - Starting at 95.K, used to be 60-80K
In addition, multiple long haul flights in a one-way journey will now seem to price by segment as well. They also seem to not allowing changes, just cancel + redeposit.

Two flight awards are needed if your one-way trip includes two long haul international flights
Keep in mind, flight awards don’t allow changes, but you can cancel and reinstate your miles at no charge.

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Glad I got my partner award to Europe this summer for 115k miles each....
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Partner award chart still holding strong... for now
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:17 pm
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An notable change to award rules listed on that page in that changes are no longer allowed. Need to make a change and you now do need to cancel and rebook afresh - so all awards on AA now have the old web special restriction

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Keep in mind, flight awards don’t allow changes, but you can cancel and reinstate your miles at no charge. Flight awards have no blackout dates and are available on all American Airlines marketed and operated flights.
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:21 pm
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Wow. After all that talk about providing award charts that are supposedly more useful in terms of setting expectations, they phoned it in by publishing what is essentially the new (stealthily devalued) Saver price, slapped a giant YMMV asterisk on it to say youll never actually get those prices, and called it a day.
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:22 pm
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WOW

USA to LHR RT was pricing (yesterday) in October at 110,000 each way J and 140,000 each way F
Now prices are double

May just be one data point, but it sure doesn't look good
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:23 pm
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This language also looks new and could have major implications:

Two flight awards are needed if your one-way trip includes two long haul international flights.
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ned
Did the redemption rates for Business Awards to Europe just double? I have been watching several routes to Europe in bus and first for several months and while some days were very expensive now all days appear to be at the max. Did my AA miles just suffer a big devaluation? Is this the new normal with AA?
Yes, Yes and Probably Yes

New AA Award Chart with Dynamic Pricing
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:39 pm
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I'm seeing European awards this summer price at pretty close to 1c per point
$4500 RT pricing at 440,000
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Originally Posted by njvandy
This language also looks new and could have major implications:

Two flight awards are needed if your one-way trip includes two long haul international flights.
What is means per my conversation with AAdvantage leadership is that every AA metal award is priced to/from North America. They no longer maintain separate pricing such as 'Europe to Asia via North America'.
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Old Apr 5, 23, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by SteveinA2
WOW

USA to LHR RT was pricing (yesterday) in October at 110,000 each way J and 140,000 each way F
Now prices are double

May just be one data point, but it sure doesn't look good
Generally speaking today's change means that the milesAAver and AAnytime award types go away, and web special is renamed Flight Award. That's it (for now). There's no change to the pricing algorithm as part of this change, though I expect less pricing transparency in the future.
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One thing not noted anywhere other than my coverage of the topic (https://viewfromthewing.com/american...-need-to-know/) as far a I am aware is that Executive Platinum expanded award availability has been eliminated with this change. That was tied to saver. And AA hasn't followed, say, UA's lead in making better dynamic award pricing available to elites.
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Old Apr 5, 23, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by gleff
Generally speaking today's change means that the milesAAver and AAnytime award types go away, and web special is renamed Flight Award. That's it (for now). There's no change to the pricing algorithm as part of this change, though I expect less pricing transparency in the future.
I disagree. While saver awards were rare, they did exist and were priced lower than these new starting at prices.

In addition, web specials sometimes priced lower than saver awards as well! That was how web specials started in the first place.

This places a floor on awards that’s higher than saver (and web specials).

Even if they (for now) price some things below these new “starting at” rates, this reeks of a phased devaluation.

Just like Alaska did earlier this year, change the published chart, then change the prices a few months later using the new chart as justification for no notice.
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