Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > American Airlines | AAdvantage
Reload this Page >

Will I get a Complimentary Upgrade from Y to W on tomorrow's flight as an EXP?

Will I get a Complimentary Upgrade from Y to W on tomorrow's flight as an EXP?

Old Nov 22, 22, 12:34 pm
  #1  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Will I get a Complimentary Upgrade from Y to W on tomorrow's flight as an EXP?

Waitlisted to J for two of us for tomorrow's PHL-CDG flight and, unfortunately, it is showing:




I believe I have seen a post or two awhile ago somewhere on FT that the AAngels/GA's sometimes will upgrade an EXP to Premium Economy if the SWUs don't clear.

PE is fairly empty but I am not going to burn an SWU on a 7hr flight to sit in it.

What do y'all think? Any tips for me on how or where to ask tomorrow?


(This is the first time in history where I haven't cleared an SWU so Y is going to be a very new experience for me internationally.)

Last edited by 355F1; Nov 23, 22 at 1:20 pm
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 1:07 pm
  #2  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 9,484
Maybe, maybe not. Very limited data points, still seems to be completely YMMV. Not much you can do other than ask in the Admirals Club and again at the gate if you don't get anywhere with the AC. Definitely report back on how it goes.

Premium Economy Upgrade Request for EXP & CK [$0 for a limited time]
355F1 likes this.
JJeffrey is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 1:11 pm
  #3  
VFR
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: DEN
Programs: AA PP, DL FO, NH *G
Posts: 1,578
I read the memo about complimentary Y to W upgrades a while ago when it was posted by Gary or JonNYC, and I believe you have to be listed for an upgrade with a SWU (i.e. VIP1 or VIP2) to be eligible (so it sounds like you would be). You should also check in the app if you are being offered a LFBU to W for $0.

If you can get the first row of MCE, Y is pretty good on a PHL to Europe flight. 10JKL on the 788 are blocked until day of departure -- I was able to grab them at T-12. Remember they have snacks in the galley -- I ate a lot of shortbread cookies.
355F1 likes this.
VFR is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 1:26 pm
  #4  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
Maybe, maybe not. Very limited data points, still seems to be completely YMMV. Not much you can do other than ask in the Admirals Club and again at the gate if you don't get anywhere with the AC. Definitely report back on how it goes.
Most definitely, I will.

Originally Posted by VFR View Post
I read the memo about complimentary Y to W upgrades a while ago when it was posted by Gary or JonNYC, and I believe you have to be listed for an upgrade with a SWU (i.e. VIP1 or VIP2) to be eligible (so it sounds like you would be). You should also check in the app if you are being offered a LFBU to W for $0.

If you can get the first row of MCE, Y is pretty good on a PHL to Europe flight. 10JKL on the 788 are blocked until day of departure -- I was able to grab them at T-12. Remember they have snacks in the galley -- I ate a lot of shortbread cookies.
We are in row 10 now but in the middle. I will definitely keep checking to see if the sides open up as I prefer a window seat.

No upgrade offers within the app before, or during, check-in.

Thank you for your post!

I have flown PHX-OGG a few times in Y and its about a 6.5hr flight so I know I won't die in Y.
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 2:22 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 9,484
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
No upgrade offers within the app before, or during, check-in.
But the upgrade offers won't appear if you're already waitlisted for a SWU or miles/copay upgrade. I know the $0 upgrade offer to PE was mentioned in the thread I linked to but I'm honestly not sure how that works.
VFR likes this.
JJeffrey is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 2:33 pm
  #6  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
But the upgrade offers won't appear if you're already waitlisted for a SWU or miles/copay upgrade. I know the $0 upgrade offer to PE was mentioned in the thread I linked to but I'm honestly not sure how that works.
I meant there wasnt any upgrade offer offered including $0.
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 2:37 pm
  #7  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 9,484
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
I meant there wasnt any upgrade offer offered including $0.
No I understand, but that's what I was saying, if you're currently waitlisted for a SWU then the system will not offer you any upgrade offers.
355F1 likes this.
JJeffrey is offline  
Old Nov 22, 22, 6:45 pm
  #8  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: All Over
Programs: DL Gold, AA EXP, SPG Plat, Hilton Dia, Hyatt Glob, CC Gold, Avis President's Club
Posts: 567
Sometimes you need to get pushy with a gate agent to upgrade to W if J if full and you're on the upgrade list. A few months ago in ORD, she swore up and down they can't upgrade to W, I kept pushing, and after she read the entire policy on the AA intranet and saw my VIP2 entry on the upgrade list, she moved me to premium economy, by that point nearly the entire plane was boarded.
jdawg is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 9:14 am
  #9  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by VFR View Post
If you can get the first row of MCE, Y is pretty good on a PHL to Europe flight. 10JKL on the 788 are blocked until day of departure -- I was able to grab them at T-12.
Thank you for this! I got us 10K/L at T-12 like you said!

We are #1/2 of 5 on the Waitlist for 0 seats. LoL.
UAPremierGuy and VFR like this.
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 10:37 am
  #10  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 9,484
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
Thank you for this! I got us 10K/L at T-12 like you said!

We are #1/2 of 5 on the Waitlist for 0 seats. LoL.
So no luck on the upgrade to PE?
JJeffrey is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 10:38 am
  #11  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
So no luck on the upgrade to PE?
We arent in PHL yet.
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 11:01 am
  #12  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: RDU <|> MMX
Programs: AA EXP 2MM, SK EBS
Posts: 9,484
Originally Posted by 355F1 View Post
We arent in PHL yet.
Ah I thought you were departing last night. Interested to hear how it goes...
355F1 likes this.
JJeffrey is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 11:24 am
  #13  
Original Poster
IHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb
Posts: 5,001
Originally Posted by JJeffrey View Post
Ah I thought you were departing last night. Interested to hear how it goes...
Currently in the air to PHL.

will post what happens once it happens!
355F1 is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 1:00 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: GCM, formerly DFW
Programs: AA Plat Pro
Posts: 185
I think I speak for us all when I write that we are waiting with baited breath

Seriously though it's like I'm flying with you hoping for an upgrade
355F1 and AB Dada like this.
bscooter26 is offline  
Old Nov 23, 22, 1:10 pm
  #15  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Programs: UA 1k, AA EXPLT, NZ GE, VA PLT Hyatt Diam, Marr Plat, HH Diam
Posts: 3,324
I’ve been advised by a few AA agents that the official policy is that ONLY the EXP gets a DoD UPG from Y to PY and that companions don’t. Assume that agents have some discretion on this, so don’t shoot the messenger (ie., me). This sort of silliness is one of several reasons I’m leaving AA.

“When traveling in a reservation that has a mix of status members checking in together, the other customers are ineligible to receive day of departure upgrades ((formerly known as LFBU). In this case, we see you've got Exec Plat status, whereas XXX has Gold status. We do see there's two spaces in Prem Econ available for confirmed changes, and it'll cost 65,000 miles per passenger, with the same taxes of $5.60. Your current award cost 20,000 miles per passenger, so there'll be a difference of 45,000 miles per passenger. What do you think?”
SFO_FT is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread