Bumped from First Class
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Bumped from First Class
For a flight from DCA - ORD last week, I purchased an upgrade to first class and selected one of three seats remaining.
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
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For a flight from DCA - ORD last week, I purchased an upgrade to first class and selected one of three seats remaining.
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
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For a flight from DCA - ORD last week, I purchased an upgrade to first class and selected one of three seats remaining.
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
The day before, I had trouble checking in on the app and when I got to the airport, my boarding pass listed as first class, with no seat assignment.
I went to the gate agent and she told me there were no first class seats left and could not explain what happened. Now I have to try to get a refund etc. Very annoying experience.
Anyone know why that would happen and how I could have avoided it?
Thanks!
FAM could be another explanation.
Or Shena Nagins...
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Change of aircraft to a plane with fewer F seats would be the least nefarious explanation. Or with a broken seat maybe. To avoid/mitigate in the future, keep an eye on the aircraft type, though your only real recourse would have been to take a different flight with an open F seat.
FAM could be another explanation.
Or Shena Nagins...
FAM could be another explanation.
Or Shena Nagins...
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If the aircraft changed that resulted in fewer F seats (e.g. A320 to A319), and you were seated in one of the rows that no longer exist, that could also happen. Lesson there is, if possible, always book in row 1 or 2 to increase your survival chances on an aircraft downgrade.
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If the aircraft changed that resulted in fewer F seats (e.g. A320 to A319), and you were seated in one of the rows that no longer exist, that could also happen. Lesson there is, if possible, always book in row 1 or 2 to increase your survival chances on an aircraft downgrade. 

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Thanks everyone -
To answer some questions:
There was no equipment change. It was an E175 with 12 first class seats when I booked and what I flew on.
F was filled up, so no broken seat.
I dont have status with American.I generally fly with them 5-10x a year and have their Platinum card.
To answer some questions:
There was no equipment change. It was an E175 with 12 first class seats when I booked and what I flew on.
F was filled up, so no broken seat.
I dont have status with American.I generally fly with them 5-10x a year and have their Platinum card.
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Thanks everyone -
To answer some questions:
There was no equipment change. It was an E175 with 12 first class seats when I booked and what I flew on.
F was filled up, so no broken seat.
I don’t have status with American….I generally fly with them 5-10x a year and have their Platinum card.
To answer some questions:
There was no equipment change. It was an E175 with 12 first class seats when I booked and what I flew on.
F was filled up, so no broken seat.
I don’t have status with American….I generally fly with them 5-10x a year and have their Platinum card.
You can contact Customer Service for a reason
If I had been not able to board and had arrived before the 15 minute deadline, I would expect compensation from AA, or I would file a DOT complaint.
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Considering the extreme delays in even getting a response from AA customer service these days (seen in posts in this forum on an almost daily frequency), filing a DOT complaint might actually be faster.
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I had this happen on a JFK-SFO recently. Got upgraded to business cabin at T-48 but couldn't get a seat assignment before or at checkin. Went to the gate at T-1 and it appears the business cabin was overbooked. Gate agent was all confused, and after I insisted a little, gave me a seat in the business cabin. Actually curious if worked only because it was a 3-cabin aircraft and she bumped someone else up to First, which was mostly empty, rather than bump me down.
My guess is their process for regular vs. lower-cost paid upgrades, now that they are aggressively pushing those, is not perfectly in sync.
My guess is their process for regular vs. lower-cost paid upgrades, now that they are aggressively pushing those, is not perfectly in sync.
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I had this happen on a JFK-SFO recently. Got upgraded to business cabin at T-48 but couldn't get a seat assignment before or at checkin. Went to the gate at T-1 and it appears the business cabin was overbooked. Gate agent was all confused, and after I insisted a little, gave me a seat in the business cabin. Actually curious if worked only because it was a 3-cabin aircraft and she bumped someone else up to First, which was mostly empty, rather than bump me down.
My guess is their process for regular vs. lower-cost paid upgrades, now that they are aggressively pushing those, is not perfectly in sync.
My guess is their process for regular vs. lower-cost paid upgrades, now that they are aggressively pushing those, is not perfectly in sync.



Maybe the OP should try to contact AA customer service first to try to get this resolved.