Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
Mar 3, 2022, 9:13 pm
#2731
Join Date: Aug 2021
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Sure, but you're not running to apply for whatever CC they're hyping today.
Mar 4, 2022, 8:08 am
#2734
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). But it's not infrequent that I see some deal or promotion that I would not have known about and sign up. This has proved very beneficial in the past. For example, I now know that Hyatt is going to have a 25% off sale on March 15. We'd likely have gotten an email about it, but now I can be ready for it since the covered period encompasses several of our stays where we may benefit.So, yeah, these blogs have value to the frequent flyer in addition to their ostensible main purpose of pushing product.
Cheers.
Mar 4, 2022, 8:56 am
#2736
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Cheers.
Mar 4, 2022, 9:31 am
#2737
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Programs: Hyatt Globalist, National Executive
Posts: 5,452
Someone help me understand this please.
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
Mar 4, 2022, 9:45 am
#2738
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, AA Plat, UA Silver, Delta Silver
Posts: 453
Someone help me understand this please.
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
Each segment will be priced internally and you’ll accrue LP based on them as you fly the segments.
Assuming enough time between segments you’ll get gold at 30k LP and Should start earning LPs at a higher rate for the rest of the segments.
Mar 4, 2022, 9:47 am
#2739
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Someone help me understand this please.
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
My wife and I will be doing an around the world trip next year, paid, flying in business class. Assuming my ticketing airline is AA. Ultimatly I am trying to determine which loyalty program will get me the best status after the trip is over.
To make the math easy each ticket will cost $10,000.
So $20,000 charged to my AA credit card will give me 20,000 LPs before I even fly.
As I understand it as a General Member I will get 5LPs for AA segments and some other number for partners.. Most flights will be on other One World carriers, but let's say I fly from CLT-LHR on AA in J. How will they tease out the LPs for the CLT-LHR segment on complex ticket like this?
edit: Just saw BudgetJetsetter 's post which happened as I was posting. The possibility of higher earning on later segments is also there as noted if there is enough time for status to update.
Cheers.
Mar 4, 2022, 11:01 am
#2740
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 192
Does anyone have data points on when base miles/loyalty points from AA Citicard are credited to your AA account? Specifically, if you make a purchase on your AA Citicard that posts to your card in February but the loyalty points from the AA Citicard don't get posted to your AA advantage account until March, will the loyalty points be assigned to February or March?
Mar 4, 2022, 11:25 am
#2741
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Washington, DC
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Does anyone have data points on when base miles/loyalty points from AA Citicard are credited to your AA account? Specifically, if you make a purchase on your AA Citicard that posts to your card in February but the loyalty points from the AA Citicard don't get posted to your AA advantage account until March, will the loyalty points be assigned to February or March?
Mar 4, 2022, 11:26 am
#2742
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Does anyone have data points on when base miles/loyalty points from AA Citicard are credited to your AA account? Specifically, if you make a purchase on your AA Citicard that posts to your card in February but the loyalty points from the AA Citicard don't get posted to your AA advantage account until March, will the loyalty points be assigned to February or March?
Mar 4, 2022, 11:28 am
#2743
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Los Angeles
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Ideally, you would get the status BEFORE your around the world trip.
Also, you are paying for business class already. The business class ticket already gives you most of the benefits elites have, so elite status is not as important.
Are you planning another around the world trip for 2024 or planning to travel heavily on AA/OW in 2024? If not, no need to chase status. Fly the airline/alliance with the best product (not always AA/OW)
Mar 4, 2022, 11:43 am
#2744
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Then I looked again and see they, even though they are separate, they are grouped about a month apart- so likely aligned with statement date. But it seems odd to see, for example, two separate posting tiles on Jan. 24. Are others seeing each separate charge as a separate line item/tile, even if grouped by statement date?
Specifically, I see for Jan. 24th:
CC purchase: 176 (Base)
CC Bonus for Grocery: 176 (Bonus)
CC purchase: 385 (base)
all as separate items.
We don't use the card much so not a big deal for us. But I could see this easily getting unwieldy for folks who have a lot of individual charges per month.
Cheers.
Mar 4, 2022, 11:47 am
#2745
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A word of warning for those using RocketMiles. I just had mine post from a recent booking where I earned 4,000 but was then given the opportunity to buy up an additional 2,000 AA miles through RocketMiles at checkout. I thought I would receive LPs for the full 6,000 RDMs I was getting through RM, but it turned out I only received 4,000 LPs, and the 2,000 I upgraded to at checkout was treated as a "bonus," for which no LPs were given.