Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
Last edit by: jbeckett
American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
How do I earn LPs?
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage
How many LPs do I need for elite status?
Code:
Gold: 40K Platinum: 75K Plat Pro: 125K EXP: 200K
Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.
AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $
Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)
* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.
So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.
A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.
Earning chart for QR
Here's a great online LP calculator:
https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/
AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints
There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:
BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.
SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.
AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
- A separate thread exists to discuss the AAdvantage eShopping portal
- Another thread exists to discuss using the portal for a particular merchant, giftcards.com
- For additional questions about buying and using gift cards, refer to the separate Manufactured Spending forum.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.
Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.
Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard
What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.
These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.
Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.
Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler℠ status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.
Loyalty Points discussion/questions - From 2022 now used for determining elite status
Feb 11, 2022, 2:25 pm
#2161
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,669
Can we leave the philosophical discussions, we have practical matters to deal with...
. Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.
. Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.
Feb 11, 2022, 2:48 pm
#2162
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA EXP / LT PLT / 3MM, Marriott LT Gold
Posts: 35,389
Can we leave the philosophical discussions, we have practical matters to deal with.... Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.
. Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.
Feb 11, 2022, 3:00 pm
#2163
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Can we leave the philosophical discussions, we have practical matters to deal with.... Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.
. Did anyone double dip for the Sunbasket offer for 1000 at SimpliMiles, I did not, I had the 3700 AAshoppingportal posted but it seems that you can do the Simplimiles offer at anytime (but only once), so I will likely do a second paid week as well to get the other 1000 miles.Right now I'm in for $26 which will get me 3700 portal miles. Simplymiles requires a $65 purchase. So I can add $39 to my first basket and get an extra 1000 miles. 25 miles per dollar is more than I'd pay normally, but if I like the food then it's clearly a good deal. The food looks really good so I'll probably do it. I would rather not get a 2nd delivery due to their crazy delivery fees.
Feb 11, 2022, 3:17 pm
#2164
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,313
It's been going on for 70 pages, but I guess everyone has their limit.
If this works as people are saying/hoping, the "travel hacker" crowd will be getting AA EXP with four SWUs after as little as $1,500 in portal shopping and another ~$1,500 flying 30 segments. I don't see any way AA's profits on portal miles are enough to make those numbers work. The credit card "churners" they cracked down on would have had to have been more profitable.
If this works as people are saying/hoping, the "travel hacker" crowd will be getting AA EXP with four SWUs after as little as $1,500 in portal shopping and another ~$1,500 flying 30 segments. I don't see any way AA's profits on portal miles are enough to make those numbers work. The credit card "churners" they cracked down on would have had to have been more profitable.
Feb 11, 2022, 3:21 pm
#2165
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
Programs: American Airlines (Executive Platinum), Hyatt (Globalist), Hilton (Diamond), IHG (Diamond)
Posts: 2,917
We get it. You're upset and don't like the new LP program to earn status. So much speculation though about things we can't know, and won't know, even after March 1. Some people will benefit from the new program, and some, sounds like you, will not. Don't know what more there is that can add to the discussion TBH.
Anyway, strange that people are suddenly offended by "speculation" after 70 pages of speculation.
Feb 11, 2022, 4:10 pm
#2166
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
See,and I feel ripped off here. My Sunbasket order was $32 and change for the 3700 miles. So I paid 23% more than you. I'll only get about 115 LP/$ instead of your 142. Need to file a claim!!!!
I did mine Wednesday and I'm never comfortable that it worked right until it shows up in my account. Blooom never did...
Cheers.
I did mine Wednesday and I'm never comfortable that it worked right until it shows up in my account. Blooom never did...
Cheers.
Last edited by brp; Feb 11, 2022 at 4:37 pm
Feb 11, 2022, 4:43 pm
#2167
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
See,and I feel ripped off here. My Sunbasket order was $32 and change for the 3700 miles. So I paid 23% more than you. I'll only get about 115 LP/$ instead of your 142. Need to file a claim!!!!
I did mine Wednesday and I'm never comfortable that it worked right until it shows up in my account. Blooom never did...
Cheers.
I did mine Wednesday and I'm never comfortable that it worked right until it shows up in my account. Blooom never did...
Cheers.
Feb 11, 2022, 4:47 pm
#2168
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP, BA Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton diamond, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 33,535
Nope. It was supposed to be like 1200 miles for "completing the analysis." I even gave them access to a smaller account for a while (like a week) and it said that the analysis part was done....and nothing.
So I removed the account and changed the password.
So not out any bucks.
Cheers.
So I removed the account and changed the password.
So not out any bucks.
Cheers.
Feb 12, 2022, 9:15 am
#2169
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 509
Have 2 missing posts so far - Motley Fool and Nakedwine. Filled out the form at 15 days after purchase. Got a fairly quick response that it will take 4-8 weeks to research and post miles!
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
Feb 12, 2022, 9:48 am
#2170
Join Date: Sep 2020
Programs: AA EXP, BA Gold, VS Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,947
Have 2 missing posts so far - Motley Fool and Nakedwine. Filled out the form at 15 days after purchase. Got a fairly quick response that it will take 4-8 weeks to research and post miles!
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
Feb 12, 2022, 10:11 am
#2171
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 706
Have 2 missing posts so far - Motley Fool and Nakedwine. Filled out the form at 15 days after purchase. Got a fairly quick response that it will take 4-8 weeks to research and post miles!
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
AA is going to have to increase their customer service when it comes to the shopping portal. If shopping is going to be leveraged for loyalty, waiting 2.5 months for missing miles to post is going to be painful.
I'm going to play the game this year and see how it goes. Backup plan is to just switch to BA next year if this becomes too much of a pain. I already pay for F/C on a good chunk of my flights, so getting BA gold status shouldn't be hard.
Then try again from the portal with a different email address. I would try a brand new browser / browser profile with no extensions installed. It should track right away; it did for me.
Feb 12, 2022, 2:15 pm
#2172
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: TX
Programs: Alaska, AA, Marriott
Posts: 943
Do you really believe those chasing "EXP Lite" status via shopping would be doing so if they were flying enough for "Real EXP?" The folks here that chase status for that "one" trip a year they use the benefits and miles for is exactly who's after these deals from a status point of view. They don't fly much.
Feb 12, 2022, 2:20 pm
#2173
Join Date: Sep 2020
Programs: AA EXP, BA Gold, VS Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,947
Do you really believe those chasing "EXP Lite" status via shopping would be doing so if they were flying enough for "Real EXP?" The folks here that chase status for that "one" trip a year they use the benefits and miles for is exactly who's after these deals from a status point of view. They don't fly much.
Feb 12, 2022, 2:29 pm
#2174
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: USA
Programs: American Airlines (Executive Platinum), Hyatt (Globalist), Hilton (Diamond), IHG (Diamond)
Posts: 2,917
Do you really believe those chasing "EXP Lite" status via shopping would be doing so if they were flying enough for "Real EXP?" The folks here that chase status for that "one" trip a year they use the benefits and miles for is exactly who's after these deals from a status point of view. They don't fly much.
"I'm going to watch the AA portals like a hawk and spend at least $1,500 on items I probably don't need so I might get a free $200 upgrade on my one trip from ORD to MCO each year."
Comical.
Feb 12, 2022, 2:46 pm
#2175
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: TX
Programs: Alaska, AA, Marriott
Posts: 943
No, I meant what I said. You can't get the extra benefits beyond status through purchases only - you have to fly.
You don't seem to understand the difference. Under the new scheme, you can get the EXP "status" through purchases but you can't get the full range of benefits which are only available to folks that fly. Look at the requirements for the Choice Rewards: "and fly a minimum of 30 flights."
For someone who wants OWE benefits like first class checkin, security and international lounge benefits as well as potentially seat choice on OW partner airlines, not to mention maintaining an LP earn rate of 11/dollar and the RDM bonus for status, "EXP lite" is more than enough to meet those needs and worth intentional spend in a portal to achieve to some. But they won't fly the 30 flights necessary for SWU's, etc. Lots of folks like that on here, for sure.
Not sure why you persist in playing this silly game, but absolutely nobody in this thread is "chasing EXP Lite." Who do you think you're fooling with this nonsense? AA execs who might be lurking?
"I'm going to watch the AA portals like a hawk and spend at least $1,500 on items I probably don't need so I might get a free $200 upgrade on my one trip from ORD to MCO each year."
Comical.
"I'm going to watch the AA portals like a hawk and spend at least $1,500 on items I probably don't need so I might get a free $200 upgrade on my one trip from ORD to MCO each year."
Comical.
For someone who wants OWE benefits like first class checkin, security and international lounge benefits as well as potentially seat choice on OW partner airlines, not to mention maintaining an LP earn rate of 11/dollar and the RDM bonus for status, "EXP lite" is more than enough to meet those needs and worth intentional spend in a portal to achieve to some. But they won't fly the 30 flights necessary for SWU's, etc. Lots of folks like that on here, for sure.