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Old Dec 17, 2021, 11:25 am
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American Airlines announced that starting in 2022, the way to earn Elite status has changed. No more Elite Qualifying Miles (EQM), Elite Qualifying Segments (EQS), or Elite Qualifying Dollars (EQD)!

Now, you can get AA Elite status by earning Loyalty Points (LPs): https://aadvantagestatus.com/?anchor...=newaadvantage

How many LPs do I need for elite status?


Code:
Gold:       40K
Platinum:   75K
Plat Pro:  125K
EXP:       200K
How do I earn LPs?

Flying
What you get for redeemable miles (RDM) is what you'll get for LPs.

AA and B6 flights:
No status: 5 LPs per $ spent in base fare plus fees (excludes taxes)
Gold: 7 LPs per $
Platinum: 8 LPs per $
Plat Pro: 9 LPs per $
EXP: 11 LPs per $

Partner flights (other than B6):
Distance flown x accrual rate* x (1 + cabin bonus + elite bonus**)

* Certain discount fares earn less than 100% of miles flown. In those cases, the discounted accrual rate (0% to 75% depending on the partner and the fare class) should be applied to the flown miles. Otherwise, the accrual rate is 100%. If there is a cabin bonus, it should not be added to the accrual rate; it is applied separately within the parentheses. The accrual rate can never be more than 100%.
** 40% for GLD, 60% for PLT, 80% for PRO, 120% for EXP.

So for example, an EXP on a 5000-mile flight on QR booked in J would earn 5000 x 100% x (1 + 25% + 120%) = 5000 x 1 x 2.45 = 12250 LPs.

A PLT on the same flight booked in P would earn 5000 x 75% x (1 + 0% + 60%) = 5000 x .75 x 1.6 = 6000 LPs.

Earning chart for QR

Here's a great online LP calculator:

https://lpcalculator.com/#/calculator/

AAdvantage non-flying partners:
Generally, 1 LP per base mile earned. But in many cases you can earn large bonuses that post as base miles; see link here: https://exploreamerican.com/newaadva...nloyaltypoints

There are differences among how these programs work, ranging from minor to significant, in terms of awarding LPs. You will need to skim through the thread as there are too many different promo offers to address here. But here are the popular ones:

BookAAHotels and RocketMiles: You can earn large mileage bonuses here, separated into "base" miles and "promo" miles by the portals. For now they are all posting as base miles on aa.com, but there is a suspicion that the "promo" miles may start posting as bonus miles (and so would not count as LP). You don't even have to actually check in or stay at the hotel as long as you pay for the stay.

SimplyMiles: You must link a MasterCard to the account. Then you can add their promos to your card by activating the offers. When you accept one of their offers and then pay for it using your linked card, you will get the associated miles which currently post as base miles on aa.com.

AAdvantage eShopping: Once you click through the AAdvantage eShopping portal to a vendor offer and make a purchase, you will eventually get the associated miles posted to your AAdvantage account as both redeemable miles and Loyalty Points. If the merchant advertises an increase in the miles per dollar spent, you'll earn the higher amount in both redeemable miles and an equal number of Loyalty Points. The same applies if a merchant advertises a higher fixed amount per purchase, rather than a per dollar amount. Examples of this would appear on the portal as, "Extra miles. Was 1 mile/$. Now earn 3 miles/$" or "Extra miles. Was up to 3700 miles. Now up to 6200 miles." However, if the website advertises a "Limited-time bonus offer" for "bonus miles" after meeting a spending threshold, that bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points. If a bonus is offered for some site-wide activity such as 1000 miles for installing an extension, or 500 miles for enrolling in the portal, or 2000 miles for meeting a spending threshold across multiple merchants, the bonus will only post as redeemable miles and not Loyalty Points.
(If a vendor has offers with both SimplyMiles and eShopping, activate the offer on SimplyMiles first and then make the purchase through eShopping with the MasterCard linked to your SimplyMiles account. Apparently that you can get a double-dip. You can also get a double-dip by stacking the promos with discount offers from your credit card issuers, basically reducing the cost to you.

Booking directly with hotels, car rental companies, etc.: The picture here is a bit unclear but it appears that if you book with a hotel that offers 5x miles, only 1 mile will post as base and the rest as bonus.

Credit card spend:
1 LP per $ spent on an AA branded card (except for one card which earns 0.50 LP per $ and several non-US cards which earn 2 LP per $). See the list of cards, and a lot more small print here: https://creditcards.aa.com/aadvantag...hange_ExecCard

What about spending bonuses?
E.g., your card gives 2x miles for hotels, or 3x for AA purchases, etc etc. These do NOT count.

These bonuses count:
Citi AAdvantage Executive World Elite Mastercard (the $450 annual fee card that gives Admirals Club access): 10K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend for the year.
AAdvantage Aviator Silver Mastercard: 5K LP bonus when hitting $20K spend, another 5K LP bonus when hitting $40K spend, and another 5K LP bonus when hitting $50K spend for the year.

Do miles earned at Bask Bank count?
No.

Will Loyalty Points count toward Million Miler status?
No, Million Miler℠ status will still be earned the same way as today, based on miles earned from flying with American and its partners.











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Old Feb 13, 2022, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by brp
<snip>And I thought we all got the same offers on the same card types.

Cheers.
Definitely not the case. My wife and I both have separate Amex Platinum accounts (i.e. she has separate account, not authorized user) and so I track offers on both accounts. There are frequently deltas between the two. There are often "core" offers that show on both accounts, but then occasionally there are offers that are on one but not the other.

Just checked more closely out of curiosity and there are actually quite a few that are on hers but not on mine and vice versa.

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Old Feb 13, 2022, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by D3KingAmerican
Sure you did 🙄 let me guess the 3700 LPs already hit your account .
Waiting for the law suit to be filed when AA values these purchases at one LP per dollar.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by D3KingAmerican
Sure you did 🙄 let me guess the 3700 LPs already hit your account .
Originally Posted by IADCAflyer
Waiting for the law suit to be filed when AA values these purchases at one LP per dollar.
Preserved for posterity.
Originally Posted by Fanjet
As for the people who think that spending $1500 on eShopping, or hotel bookings, is going to get someone EXP status (lite or otherwise)... it's not. Even in the best case scenarios, one would have to spend several thousand dollars to cross that threshold. A lot of these generous miles offers are only good once, for initial subscriptions. And there aren't enough of them to even come close to 200K LPs. And let me mention once again, I only had to spend around $5-6K each year in total partner airline spend to cross the EXP threshold under the outgoing program. So, what's the difference in AA's eyes between that and this?
The hotel booking miles are huge. And no one thinks they are going to get EXP for $1500. But it's quite possible to get EXP-lite just on hotel bookings without ever setting foot on a plane for maybe about $4K, ASSUMING that all the miles count as LPs. I already have 67K of them.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 2:35 pm
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Originally Posted by vasantn
Me three. I expect to accumulate abut 100K through shopping by mid-March (by which time the LPs should be visible and the question of whether or nor they will count will be resolved) and the other 100K (and 30 segments) through organic flying. No EXP-lite about it.
You three? The other two claim they’re only going for EXP Lite.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by js1993
You three? The other two claim they’re only going for EXP Lite.
"EXP Lite" as a stepping stone to "EXP Heavy".
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 2:43 pm
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If I were to buy a ticket on aa.com for $500 with my citi AA exec card vs. buying a $500 ticket on aa.com with any other non AA branded card what is the loyalty points I'll be forgoing by using the non branded card?
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by coleslaw
"EXP Lite" as a stepping stone to "EXP Heavy".
Then you’re not going for EXP Lite, either, which seemed obvious all along.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by js1993
Then you’re not going for EXP Lite, either, which seemed obvious all along.
I've never said I was "going for EXP Lite" and leaving it at that. The whole point is that getting "EXP Lite" makes it easier to justify crediting flights to AA vs. BA.

Originally Posted by coleslaw
Me too.

I fly regularly and usually on pretty cheap tickets - historically it's made sense for me to credit to BA since that was a much easier path to OWE status. Now it's probably going to make sense for me to credit to AA to get to 30 segments and collect LP primarily via shopping and hotel stays to reach EXP, then credit enough to BA to get to silver. That's flagship lounge access domestically, first class lounge access internationally and EXP upgrade benefits on the AA credited flights.
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Old Feb 13, 2022, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian
If I were to buy a ticket on aa.com for $500 with my citi AA exec card vs. buying a $500 ticket on aa.com with any other non AA branded card what is the loyalty points I'll be forgoing by using the non branded card?
500.
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by D3KingAmerican
Sure you did 🙄 let me guess the 3700 LPs already hit your account .
Ok then. I guess you're right and all the AA documentation that says that base miles from the Cartera count as LP are wrong. That's believable!
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 12:18 pm
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Giftcards.com is 2x today in the portal. Buy 10x250 would get you 5k LP for a cost of $60 or so depending on your liquidation method.
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by AndyKehn
Giftcards.com is 2x today in the portal. Buy 10x250 would get you 5k LP for a cost of $60 or so depending on your liquidation method.
It was 3x on Friday, for one day only though.

I got a message from the portal today "Roses are red, violets are blue, shop now and watch your miles accrue."

Byte has an increase offer of 3000 miles just for today and some discounts, anyone looked into it?
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 3:38 pm
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Originally Posted by AndyKehn
Giftcards.com is 2x today in the portal. Buy 10x250 would get you 5k LP for a cost of $60 or so depending on your liquidation method.
Can you elaborate? How does this work? I'm not well-versed in gift cards.

Originally Posted by nk15
Byte has an increase offer of 3000 miles just for today and some discounts, anyone looked into it?
I've taken 2 bites at Byte and spent $260. Nothing has posted yet. I'm out 11,300 miles.

I'm going to try and return the crap. It's still unopened.
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 3:41 pm
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9x at overstock.com and Saks off 5th today. I got new furniture and ski gear.
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Old Feb 14, 2022, 4:09 pm
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Also 8x at Lululemon. Need more abc pants.

You can buy visa gift cards from giftcards.com with a small fee. How to liquidate those visa is up to your imagination.
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