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Old Aug 29, 2020, 11:36 pm
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AA PHX-YVR nonstop?

What happened nonstop flight PHX-YVR on AA? Is this route has been discontinued? Did they tried it before? All they want to bring it back. Will they ever reconsider again?

We are planned going to Vancouver, Canada for next year. We will visited Canada for a few days. I saw Diner, Drive-ins, and Dives TV show. I watch the show. Peaceful restaurant.
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 12:31 am
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If I remember when it flew last year it had two non stop competitors. West Jet and Air Canada. And multiple flights with connections flights that were really easy. But I think before you jump to conclusions let’s see if Canada will lift the travel ban due to Covid that restricts anything but essential travel

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Old Aug 30, 2020, 10:30 am
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I believe AA suspended all YVR flights. Frankly, I wouldn’t count on Canada lifting the ban on non-Canadians entering the country even next summer (certainly not Americans unless and until you get the outbreak under control — there is something like 85% support here for keeping the border closed, and a minority government sure isn’t likely to go against that level of popularity especially when there is at the very least a strong argument that it’s a good policy as well), and I wouldn’t expect AA’s route planning to count on that either. If the travel ban is lifted, I’d expect things to change.

It’s loaded as resuming in June 2021, according to the link above.

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Old Aug 30, 2020, 10:36 am
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I believe AA discontinued all YVR flights. Frankly, I wouldnt count on Canada lifting the ban on non-Canadians entering the country even next summer (certainly not Americans unless and until you get the outbreak under control there is something like 85% support here for keeping the border closed, and a minority government sure isnt likely to go against that level of popularity especially when there is at the very least a strong argument that its a good policy as well), and I wouldnt expect AAs route planning to count on that either. If the travel ban is lifted, Id expect things to change.

Its loaded as resuming in June 2021, according to the link above.
Yikes! But then again, I don't have an urge to go to Canada haha
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 11:22 am
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Yikes! But then again, I don't have an urge to go to Canada haha
After November 3 you might. 😉
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 1:27 pm
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I did not realize AA stopped all flights to YVR.
My travel back and forth to Canada (as an "essential worker") has been through YYZ, and most of those flights (both ways) have had plenty of people on them, if not full. I would think the demand to YVR would be similar to YYZ even with the current restrictions.
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Uzzar
I did not realize AA stopped all flights to YVR.
My travel back and forth to Canada (as an "essential worker") has been through YYZ, and most of those flights (both ways) have had plenty of people on them, if not full. I would think the demand to YVR would be similar to YYZ even with the current restrictions.
Flights may be full but with dramatically reduced capacity. AA doesnt have a hub thats particularly geographically convenient to YVR, and I dont think of DFW as a particularly high local demand spot for YVR. And AA can route YVR traffic over SEA on AS.

(I didnt realize it either until I saw that post searching in response to this thread. Last I knew, AA had suspended all YVR service except DFW.)
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 3:58 pm
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What happened nonstop flight PHX-YVR on AA? Is this route has been discontinued? Did they tried it before? All they want to bring it back. Will they ever reconsider again?

We are planned going to Vancouver, Canada for next year. We will visited Canada for a few days. I saw Diner, Drive-ins, and Dives TV show. I watch the show. Peaceful restaurant.
Will they reconsider it? Yes, eventually. At least on a seasonal basis. There's lots of cruise ships from Vancouver and lots of people who want to go to AZ during the winter. But it'll take them a while to bring it back. I wouldn't count on it coming this year, or maybe even next year. YVR is not a major focus for AA, DL & UA are far more flights as US carriers go. WS also flies to a lot of the places AA would wanna go. Personally I've always been waiting for a YVR-MIA red eye, but if that was ever in the cards, it won't be now for a long time.

If you wanna fly direct PHX-YVR next year, plan to do it on Westjet or Air Canada. If you must fly AA, you'll probably either need to make a stop at LAX or foolishly in DFW.
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 5:29 pm
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I've flown this route on AA many times in the past and really hope to see it again. Always a full bird.
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by drvannostren
Will they reconsider it? Yes, eventually. At least on a seasonal basis. There's lots of cruise ships from Vancouver and lots of people who want to go to AZ during the winter. But it'll take them a while to bring it back. I wouldn't count on it coming this year, or maybe even next year. YVR is not a major focus for AA, DL & UA are far more flights as US carriers go. WS also flies to a lot of the places AA would wanna go. Personally I've always been waiting for a YVR-MIA red eye, but if that was ever in the cards, it won't be now for a long time.

If you wanna fly direct PHX-YVR next year, plan to do it on Westjet or Air Canada. If you must fly AA, you'll probably either need to make a stop at LAX or foolishly in DFW.
The problem with YVR is point-of-sale.

The US point-of-sale traffic is very summer seasonal and centered around the cruise industry which is going to be dead for the next few years.

The rest of the year, the traffic is mostly Canadian point-of-sale; passengers that are much more likely to fly a Canadian carrier such as WS or AC.

AA is not a very good position in YVR.

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Old Aug 30, 2020, 10:41 pm
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Originally Posted by drvannostren
Will they reconsider it? Yes, eventually. At least on a seasonal basis. There's lots of cruise ships from Vancouver and lots of people who want to go to AZ during the winter. But it'll take them a while to bring it back. I wouldn't count on it coming this year, or maybe even next year. YVR is not a major focus for AA, DL & UA are far more flights as US carriers go. WS also flies to a lot of the places AA would wanna go. Personally I've always been waiting for a YVR-MIA red eye, but if that was ever in the cards, it won't be now for a long time.

If you wanna fly direct PHX-YVR next year, plan to do it on Westjet or Air Canada. If you must fly AA, you'll probably either need to make a stop at LAX or foolishly in DFW.
Actually, Air Canada have it. They do have direct flight PHX-YVR by operated Air Canada Jazz. But I didn't want fly on CRJ705 or CRJ900. It's very small aircraft. We prefer fly on a large aircraft.
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Old Aug 30, 2020, 11:25 pm
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The fortunate thing about this route when it returns you can often purchase tickets last minute at a very reasonable price. I am it sure but when I flew it the Federal Air Marshalls seemed to like it. They would exit the aircraft at YVR and just hang in the hallway. They could have been another agency but these guys always flew up front.
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