Significant changes to UA Mileage Plus program. Impact for AA?
#46


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#47



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I was referring to points earned being based on revenue for as long as I can remember. Hotel status though costs the hotel basically nothing except perhaps a breakfast (which is generally low cost as well), especially since room upgrades aren't typically confirmed until the day of when it's clear the room would otherwise go unsold.
#48



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Agree completely. I actually think most people (well, maybe not on FT) would respond well to a fair, transparent, non-arbitrary system like this. Sure it will piss off some of those who are able to game the system and achieve high EQM with low spend, but those probably arent the airlines most profitable customers anyway.
#51



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Agree completely. I actually think most people (well, maybe not on FT) would respond well to a fair, transparent, non-arbitrary system like this. Sure it will piss off some of those who are able to game the system and achieve high EQM with low spend, but those probably aren’t the airline’s most profitable customers anyway.
#52
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Not a knock on WN, at all but their entire model is simple which means their FFP is simple too. If I wasn't traveling 100k miles a year and flew a few times, I'd fly WN in a heartbeat
#53



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I think that the new program serves to penalize fliers living at hubs to the tune of $6000 at a 1K level. Convenience is the primary reason I choose United but apparently it is time to start reevaluating. If you can fly direct, why add additional stops? If you are going to add a connection, why not look at other airlines? A 60% increase in spend (w/o PQF) is enough to start looking around for me.
#54




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Changes for 2019 Appear to have announced on Nov 5, 2018
So the big question for me as I start to think about what to do about 2021 status, is when American will make it's declaration of status requirements for EXP.
Based upon old posts I'm seeing on Boardingarea, it appears articles were first written on Nov 5, 2018 for 2020 status earned through 2019.
With that in mind, I guess we'll know in about 3 weeks what AA intends to do.
Based upon old posts I'm seeing on Boardingarea, it appears articles were first written on Nov 5, 2018 for 2020 status earned through 2019.
With that in mind, I guess we'll know in about 3 weeks what AA intends to do.
#55
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Wow. They might as well just change 1k to 100K as in a few years that's what the spend minimum will be.
At any rate I say I look forward to my last EXP year next year as sure as S Parker will change this spend threshold minimums. Game over for me. It was a nice ride while it lasted.
At any rate I say I look forward to my last EXP year next year as sure as S Parker will change this spend threshold minimums. Game over for me. It was a nice ride while it lasted.
Trying to find out the requirements for maintaining lifetime gold, (million miler) if the 4 flights per year still applies.
#56


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AFAIK MM status remains unchanged for now until it gets enhanced away. Never heard about 4 flights a year to maintain MM status on any carrier.
#57



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There's no change for MM status, if you have MM status that's not effected by this change.
Last edited by ryan182; Oct 12, 2019 at 12:25 am
#59


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I agree with the principle that there ought to be reasonable levels of earnings to get the tiered rewards of memberships, but I think the airlines are in danger of taking in to an extreme by reducing membership numbers at the top levels to the very exclusive.
This only encourages people to go 'free agent' meaning the airlines will be back to competing on cost creating new fare wars. Bad for the airlines, but perhaps good for the consumer.
#60



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Neat but UA has never had a segment requirement to maintain MM/Lifetime status; so as long as the account was active you were fine; I went 4 years w/o setting foot on a UA plane and maintain to this day my *G/MM status.

