AA090 (Poor experience in Y, daytime ORD-LHR)
#46
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Exactly. Absolutely no reason for the pilot to come on the horn after landing. That's why I usually sigh when the pilot comes on the horn after take off in situation where we took off early and he's all excited to tell us that. Of course I know that 99.99% chance our gate will be occupied upon arrival.
#47
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Exactly. Absolutely no reason for the pilot to come on the horn after landing. That's why I usually sigh when the pilot comes on the horn after take off in situation where we took off early and he's all excited to tell us that. Of course I know that 99.99% chance our gate will be occupied upon arrival.
Every time I fly AA I have at least a 2 hr connection and it ends up being about 30-45 minutes because we land "early" and wait for a gate or take laps around O'Hare. Such a bummer.
#49
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Exactly. Absolutely no reason for the pilot to come on the horn after landing. That's why I usually sigh when the pilot comes on the horn after take off in situation where we took off early and he's all excited to tell us that. Of course I know that 99.99% chance our gate will be occupied upon arrival.
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#51
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To the OP, I would write a short note to AA Customer Service with a description of said FA. Their supervisor will be notified and it will be noted in their HR file.
That said, if you have dietary restrictions, then I would suggest ordering a special meal. At least, you would have a decent shot at getting what you ordered...just a thought.
That said, if you have dietary restrictions, then I would suggest ordering a special meal. At least, you would have a decent shot at getting what you ordered...just a thought.
#52
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This must have changed. In the past those working that flight went back on AA91 the next day. The reason that they liked and bid for it was that they never really left Chicago time - they landed in London, went to bed at about 6pm body clock time, go up the next day and worked late the next afternoon. It was far less cruel jet-lag wise. It used to be thus for the day flight from JFK.
All airlines run out of meal choices, but there is a way of telling people and it would appear that this was lacking. She could have cared less and it showed. On AA the is no one to whom you can complain - there is no Senior Crew member (CSD/CSM) who is in charge. The crew can and do as they please and are answerable to no one. I flew this route in J about mid-June. As others have pointed out, BA do not offer a day service and I love the timings of this flight. The crew working our side were as miserable as the day was long. Smiling was not part of their Job Description. The pair working the other side were clearly totally different. We swapped. Clearly this was novel but no one could find a good reason for saying No other then the meal orders had to be moved. We had a most pleasant flight with two friendly and convivial people.
All airlines run out of meal choices, but there is a way of telling people and it would appear that this was lacking. She could have cared less and it showed. On AA the is no one to whom you can complain - there is no Senior Crew member (CSD/CSM) who is in charge. The crew can and do as they please and are answerable to no one. I flew this route in J about mid-June. As others have pointed out, BA do not offer a day service and I love the timings of this flight. The crew working our side were as miserable as the day was long. Smiling was not part of their Job Description. The pair working the other side were clearly totally different. We swapped. Clearly this was novel but no one could find a good reason for saying No other then the meal orders had to be moved. We had a most pleasant flight with two friendly and convivial people.
#53
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Given the situation, I'm not sure any amount of apology would make OP happy. There is only 1 option left, which is not acceptable by OP due to dietary restrictions or whatever reason. There are no other complimentary meals left. This is how it's going to play out based on what OP was complaining about:
FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
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FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
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Last edited by Microwave; Sep 15, 2019 at 11:16 am
#54
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Given the situation, I'm not sure any amount of apology would make OP happy. There is only 1 option left, which is not acceptable by OP due to dietary restrictions or whatever reason. There are no other complimentary meals left. This is how it's going to play out based on what OP was complaining about:
FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
OP: [Opens laptop and posts on Flyertalk]
FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
OP: [Opens laptop and posts on Flyertalk]
1) “Would you just like the tray with the salad?” A: “No”
2) “Do you hate my cooking?” A: “Yes - but don’t take it personally”
3) “You did not eat dinner, the mid-flight or now breakfast are you OK?” A: “Quite, thanks for asking though”
4) “You’ve been before haven’t you”? A: “Far, far too many times over the last quarter century, I already know the drill”
#4 is my favorite to get...
#55
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Not to pile on the OP but of all of that could go wrong with a flight a FA not smiling and not having my desired meal, particularly the subpar McDonalds food served In Y would be way down my list. To be truthful I get these surveys from AA every couple months. It always asked me did the FA/GA/AC staff smile at me/make eye contact. I never remember so I say yes.
You are always going to get more personal attention in a premium cabin than Y because of design and the fact that the F FA has far fewer paxs to look after. As I said before a sign of the times when I'm in Y a FA could walk down the aisle with horns growing out of their head and I think most of the paxs so engrossed in their phone wouldn't even notice.
Finally writing to AA will get exactly one result. A form letter.
You are always going to get more personal attention in a premium cabin than Y because of design and the fact that the F FA has far fewer paxs to look after. As I said before a sign of the times when I'm in Y a FA could walk down the aisle with horns growing out of their head and I think most of the paxs so engrossed in their phone wouldn't even notice.
Finally writing to AA will get exactly one result. A form letter.
#56
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Given the situation, I'm not sure any amount of apology would make OP happy. There is only 1 option left, which is not acceptable by OP due to dietary restrictions or whatever reason. There are no other complimentary meals left. This is how it's going to play out based on what OP was complaining about:
FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
OP: [Opens laptop and posts on Flyertalk]
FA, smiling: I'm sorry, I only have one choice left. It's the frozen microwave meal of pasta with unexplained meat. [hands over tray]
OP: But I can't eat this. I have an aversion to unexplained meat.
FA, smiling: I apologize about your aversion to unexplained meat.
OP: But I can't eat this.
FA, smiling: I apologize. Would you like me to take it away?
OP: No.
FA, smiling: I'm sorry that you would not like me to take it away. Have a good day and enjoy your flight. Because at American, we are going for great. [To another passenger] I'm sorry, I only have one choice left....
OP: [Opens laptop and posts on Flyertalk]
Solutions
1. Preorder Special meal
2. Preorder the veggie option
3. Bring my own food
4. Pick around the other option.
If thats the worst thing that happens on the flight, meh.
#57
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Pretty much. I'm a vegetarian, and every now and again, the veggie option is popular and I miss out.
Solutions
1. Preorder Special meal
2. Preorder the veggie option
3. Bring my own food
4. Pick around the other option.
If thats the worst thing that happens on the flight, meh.
Solutions
1. Preorder Special meal
2. Preorder the veggie option
3. Bring my own food
4. Pick around the other option.
If thats the worst thing that happens on the flight, meh.
#58
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Pretty much. I'm a vegetarian, and every now and again, the veggie option is popular and I miss out.
Solutions
1. Preorder Special meal
2. Preorder the veggie option
3. Bring my own food
4. Pick around the other option.
If thats the worst thing that happens on the flight, meh.
Solutions
1. Preorder Special meal
2. Preorder the veggie option
3. Bring my own food
4. Pick around the other option.
If thats the worst thing that happens on the flight, meh.
#59
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To the OP, I would write a short note to AA Customer Service with a description of said FA. Their supervisor will be notified and it will be noted in their HR file.
That said, if you have dietary restrictions, then I would suggest ordering a special meal. At least, you would have a decent shot at getting what you ordered...just a thought.
That said, if you have dietary restrictions, then I would suggest ordering a special meal. At least, you would have a decent shot at getting what you ordered...just a thought.
Not to pile on the OP but of all of that could go wrong with a flight a FA not smiling and not having my desired meal, particularly the subpar McDonalds food served In Y would be way down my list. To be truthful I get these surveys from AA every couple months. It always asked me did the FA/GA/AC staff smile at me/make eye contact. I never remember so I say yes.
You are always going to get more personal attention in a premium cabin than Y because of design and the fact that the F FA has far fewer paxs to look after. As I said before a sign of the times when I'm in Y a FA could walk down the aisle with horns growing out of their head and I think most of the paxs so engrossed in their phone wouldn't even notice.
Finally writing to AA will get exactly one result. A form letter.
You are always going to get more personal attention in a premium cabin than Y because of design and the fact that the F FA has far fewer paxs to look after. As I said before a sign of the times when I'm in Y a FA could walk down the aisle with horns growing out of their head and I think most of the paxs so engrossed in their phone wouldn't even notice.
Finally writing to AA will get exactly one result. A form letter.
I guess if you arrive on one flight where the cabin crew were energetic, smiling and made frequent passes through the cabin then that experience will leave you content. If another carriers crew on the same route are surly, unsmiling, rude and make limited passes through the cabin and seem intent on dimming it as quick as possible then that will of course leave an impression of the second carrier that is less favourable. There is something to be said for energetic crew who aren't afraid of smiling and giving the impression they care. If you're idea of 'professionalism' in an FA is pushing out the service as quick as possible in an automaton condescending fashion then AA is the carrier for you. The BA mixed Fleet crew were superb by comparison. As I said before, I have no connection with BA, just highlighting the good and the bad between the two. I've been discouraged by some of the more sarcastic comments but thank you to those who appeared to support. Have a good day all of you. I'm out.
Last edited by JY1024; Sep 15, 2019 at 11:38 am Reason: Merged consecutive posts
#60
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If they ask you then presumably they expect something in that vein from their FAs. It would appear you have a poor view of Y pax. Perhaps this is indicative and is part of the issue. If you expect to be treated badly etc etc. I don't agree that 'most of the [Y] pax are as unobservant as you suggest. That's an assumption. A dangerous one at that.
Doug Parker couldn't give a rat's behind the FA threw attitude at you.