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Antarius May 20, 2019 9:24 pm


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31119059)
This thread makes me never want to fly AA long haul again :/

AA just sued the TWU-IAM union alleging illegal work stoppages.

Not surprising. It would be an awful coincidence that a bunch of brand new 787s and 77Ws suddenly started to simultaneously break.

dkc192 May 21, 2019 7:15 pm

5/21 AA169 LAX-NRT took a 6-hour trip to nowhere, returned to LAX due to MX; now delayed 17h to 0530 local tomorrow
5/22 AA170 NRT-LAX delayed 17h due to above shenanigans
5/21 AA127 DFW-PVG returned to gate and subsequently delayed 7.5h due to MX/crew availability
5/21 AA86 ORD-LHR delayed 2.5h due to MX
5/21 AA42 ORD-VCE delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA754 PHL-CDG cancelled due to MX
5/22 AA755 CDG-PHL cancelled due to above MX (another costly one for AA...)
5/21 AA734 PHL-MAN delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA758 PHL-ATH delayed 1.75h due to MX
5/21 AA718 PHL-FCO delayed 4h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA258 PHL-LIS delayed 1h and counting due to MX

AANYC1981 May 21, 2019 10:51 pm


Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 31125718)
5/21 AA169 LAX-NRT took a 6-hour trip to nowhere, returned to LAX due to MX; now delayed 17h to 0530 local tomorrow
5/22 AA170 NRT-LAX delayed 17h due to above shenanigans
5/21 AA127 DFW-PVG returned to gate and subsequently delayed 7.5h due to MX/crew availability
5/21 AA86 ORD-LHR delayed 2.5h due to MX
5/21 AA42 ORD-VCE delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA754 PHL-CDG cancelled due to MX
5/22 AA755 CDG-PHL cancelled due to above MX (another costly one for AA...)
5/21 AA734 PHL-MAN delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA758 PHL-ATH delayed 1.75h due to MX
5/21 AA718 PHL-FCO delayed 4h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA258 PHL-LIS delayed 1h and counting due to MX

Jesus be a MX contract

ShortDog May 22, 2019 7:36 am


Originally Posted by dkc192 (Post 31125718)
5/21 AA169 LAX-NRT took a 6-hour trip to nowhere, returned to LAX due to MX; now delayed 17h to 0530 local tomorrow
5/22 AA170 NRT-LAX delayed 17h due to above shenanigans
5/21 AA127 DFW-PVG returned to gate and subsequently delayed 7.5h due to MX/crew availability
5/21 AA86 ORD-LHR delayed 2.5h due to MX
5/21 AA42 ORD-VCE delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA754 PHL-CDG cancelled due to MX
5/22 AA755 CDG-PHL cancelled due to above MX (another costly one for AA...)
5/21 AA734 PHL-MAN delayed 1h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA758 PHL-ATH delayed 1.75h due to MX
5/21 AA718 PHL-FCO delayed 4h and counting due to MX
5/21 AA258 PHL-LIS delayed 1h and counting due to MX

https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/a...g-flights.html

The answer sure looks like yes!

dkc192 May 22, 2019 7:17 pm

5/22 AA718 PHL-FCO delayed 2.75h and counting due to MX (second day in a row)
5/22 AA160 ORD-ATH delayed 2.25h due to MX

iahphx May 23, 2019 3:46 pm

Not sure if it's been mentioned up-thread, but this is a good resource to monitor potential union-related delays and cancellations.

https://flightaware.com/live/cancelled

Personally, I'm going to be surprised if the conduct continues (at least at the level we saw earlier this week). Courts have been very harsh on these illegal slowdowns, fining unions and their leaders. Tuesday's data just reeks of illegal conduct. We'll see what happens.

iahphx May 24, 2019 11:34 am

I've heard that there were "strange" cancellations at ORD last night on the int'l flights. I'm not seeing anything (yet) today. I also have not heard anything more about the lawsuit. It usually takes just a few days for the airline to get a preliminary injunction and. by their actions, the union is setting themselves up to be severely spanked by the court. I'm actually surprised that any slowdown has continued, if it fact that is the case. They're risking millions of dollars of liability, including personal liability to the union leaders. That tends to encourage the participants to behave themselves. :)

chuck1 May 24, 2019 1:25 pm

How does this uphold in the court? Can't the mechanics find almost anything to not sign off on at any given time?

Antarius May 24, 2019 1:35 pm


Originally Posted by chuck1 (Post 31135540)
How does this uphold in the court? Can't the mechanics find almost anything to not sign off on at any given time?

There is a MEL or Minimum Equipment List. Yes, you can find stuff, but if the courts find that all of sudden, small stuff, non-MEL stuff is popping up and causing delays en masse, then they can rule against the union. The second thing is, if all of a sudden there are issues
a. Everything coincidentally broke
b. Why were the mechanics not doing their job before?

Mike Gilbert May 24, 2019 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by iahphx (Post 31135194)
I've heard that there were "strange" cancellations at ORD last night on the int'l flights. I'm not seeing anything (yet) today. I also have not heard anything more about the lawsuit. It usually takes just a few days for the airline to get a preliminary injunction and. by their actions, the union is setting themselves up to be severely spanked by the court. I'm actually surprised that any slowdown has continued, if it fact that is the case. They're risking millions of dollars of liability, including personal liability to the union leaders. That tends to encourage the participants to behave themselves. :)

AA 42 ORD to VCE was cancelled last night. AA rolling delayed from 7:40pm to 3:30am before finally canceling. They changed the gate 9 times and there was no order with how it was handled by ORD agents.

Issue was stated as no crew

BlueDuke May 24, 2019 4:10 pm

RDU-LHR
 
Went MX about 1.5 hours before departure, with a one hour estimate. 45 minutes into that, another 3 hour delay tacked on. Will it go? We shall see...

dls25 May 24, 2019 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by Mike Gilbert (Post 31135884)


AA 42 ORD to VCE was cancelled last night. AA rolling delayed from 7:40pm to 3:30am before finally canceling. They changed the gate 9 times and there was no order with how it was handled by ORD agents.

Issue was stated as no crew

AA 86 ORD-LHR and AA 258 PHL-LIS both cancelled as well yesterday.

AANYC1981 May 24, 2019 5:07 pm

This is getting bad

1K-SFO May 24, 2019 6:25 pm

Also:

DFW-HKG delayed several hours.
DFW-NRT delayed 6hrs
2 DFW-LHR flights delayed 2-3+ hrs
ORD-ATH and ORD-CDG both late 1+ hr

All those mechanical.

Antarius May 24, 2019 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by 1K-SFO (Post 31136232)
Also:

DFW-HKG delayed several hours.
DFW-NRT delayed 6hrs
2 DFW-LHR flights delayed 2-3+ hrs
ORD-ATH and ORD-CDG both late 1+ hr

All those mechanical.

And we are supposed to believe this is coincidence. :rolleyes:


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