How to squeeze value out of AA
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Or just get a single AC membership, pack a carry-on full of containers, find an AC that serves guacamole, and load up. If you need drinks too, throw in some hydro flasks and just order a bunch of comp stuff from the bar and pour them in.
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No need for the bar when Coke Freestyle fills the gap.
#108
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Maybe not so fast.......BA just today introduced its new Club Suite J seats - Fabulous! So now, if you wait about five years until they retrofit their fleet, you can cash in those AA miles on a BA redemption. On second thought in five years, your 975K miles might only buy you a SAAVer Y seat to Fargo in the winter. Nevermind, take the guacamole.
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Maybe not so fast.......BA just today introduced its new Club Suite J seats - Fabulous! So now, if you wait about five years until they retrofit their fleet, you can cash in those AA miles on a BA redemption. On second thought in five years, your 975K miles might only buy you a SAAVer Y seat to Fargo in the winter. Nevermind, take the guacamole.
I still think that Etihad apartments are the way to go. Route SFO-JFK-AUH-DEL/AMD/wherever.
Booking the award is a fun exercise too, if you're a bit of a masochist. Etihad has POS restrictions on its award space, so the really fun part is calling AA call centers all over the world, looking for a country that can see the space. I've spent a few evenings doing that! Honestly I think that that's the reason that the availability is so good -- most people can't figure out how to book the award ticket. But that's a different thread.
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I don't recall seeing an AC that has guac out on the buffet where you can scoop the entire tub; I've seen guac stations where someone makes it fresh for you, one serving at a time.
#111
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Not to mention those fuel surcharges. Although, at least AA doesn't get that money.
I still think that Etihad apartments are the way to go. Route SFO-JFK-AUH-DEL/AMD/wherever.
Booking the award is a fun exercise too, if you're a bit of a masochist. Etihad has POS restrictions on its award space, so the really fun part is calling AA call centers all over the world, looking for a country that can see the space. I've spent a few evenings doing that! Honestly I think that that's the reason that the availability is so good -- most people can't figure out how to book the award ticket. But that's a different thread.
I still think that Etihad apartments are the way to go. Route SFO-JFK-AUH-DEL/AMD/wherever.
Booking the award is a fun exercise too, if you're a bit of a masochist. Etihad has POS restrictions on its award space, so the really fun part is calling AA call centers all over the world, looking for a country that can see the space. I've spent a few evenings doing that! Honestly I think that that's the reason that the availability is so good -- most people can't figure out how to book the award ticket. But that's a different thread.
This is very helpful. Thanks @VegasGambler !
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When people have asked EF to implement PoS control on award searches (as they have on flight availability searches), citing EY as an example of where it's needed, EF says that EY does not have PoS restrictions, and that the reasons only some agents and some call centers during some hours are able to see EY space is not PoS but unspecified technical issues.
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Try something like LAX-JFK-AUH-MLE/DEL/BOM. Arrive LAX late afternoon and spend 3-4 hours in First Dining, sample the entire menu and consume 2-3 bottles of Krug Grande Cuvée. Then red-eye to JFK and spend a few hours or all day in the JFK First Dining and another few bottles of Krug (OJ optional until lunch). Five bottles of Krug and a sample of the entire menu will set AA back at least $800. Then off to Etihad when AA has to pay hard cash for your First Class Apartment flight to AUH. No idea what they pay EY but maybe $800-$1,000. At 115,000 miles each way, you could wash, rinse, repeat 8 times and cost AA north of $10,000 and maybe as much as $15,000 if your liver can take all that Krug.
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#114
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(Bolding added,) On the contrary, there have been a number of excellent suggestions, including various charities where those miles can make a significant difference, as well as specific routes on which to seek premium cabin award space. I wouldn't call those "mediocre," but I suppose if someone has joined late and merely skimmed the last few posts, one could get the mistaken impression that nothing of value was suggested.
#115
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This is what her miles worth now anyway, about $10k at a very minimum valuation of 1 cent/mile. If anything her miles would underperform with your plan and at this valuation. If we use the valuation suggested by the bloggers her miles are worth about $12-15k.
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As for what her miles are worth, you're looking at as much as 10 cents/mile value when redeeming for Etihad First plus another 1 cent/mile just for the Krug.
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Also, just an FYI for the OP, if you break any of their mileage use or other program rules, which could be even inadvertently, they may close your account and confiscate all the miles, which will be the worse and opposite outcome of your intent. If they are tracking this thread, just running a search on their database using your gender, location(s), and approximate age and number of miles in your account (info you provided on this thread alone) they will likely know who you are.
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#118
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+1
Try something like LAX-JFK-AUH-MLE/DEL/BOM. Arrive LAX late afternoon and spend 3-4 hours in First Dining, sample the entire menu and consume 2-3 bottles of Krug Grande Cuvée. Then red-eye to JFK and spend a few hours or all day in the JFK First Dining and another few bottles of Krug (OJ optional until lunch). Five bottles of Krug and a sample of the entire menu will set AA back at least $800. Then off to Etihad when AA has to pay hard cash for your First Class Apartment flight to AUH. No idea what they pay EY but maybe $800-$1,000. At 115,000 miles each way, you could wash, rinse, repeat 8 times and cost AA north of $10,000 and maybe as much as $15,000 if your liver can take all that Krug.
Try something like LAX-JFK-AUH-MLE/DEL/BOM. Arrive LAX late afternoon and spend 3-4 hours in First Dining, sample the entire menu and consume 2-3 bottles of Krug Grande Cuvée. Then red-eye to JFK and spend a few hours or all day in the JFK First Dining and another few bottles of Krug (OJ optional until lunch). Five bottles of Krug and a sample of the entire menu will set AA back at least $800. Then off to Etihad when AA has to pay hard cash for your First Class Apartment flight to AUH. No idea what they pay EY but maybe $800-$1,000. At 115,000 miles each way, you could wash, rinse, repeat 8 times and cost AA north of $10,000 and maybe as much as $15,000 if your liver can take all that Krug.
I propose a variation: just do a round trip with buddies that just is on AA aircraft but hits up multiple FFD lounges (say LAX-JFK-MIA-JFK-LAX). Doesn't put a hit on AA for the EY redemption but if you had a few buddies, you could drink up/eat up more efficiently, and since AAnytime availability is last seat, AA can't sell those seats at full freight (or do a J->F upgrade).
#119
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All I can really say is, this is why we can't have nice things! :-(
I hate the premise of this thread, because if enough people did this, it would water down the AAdvantage program even more to the point where they might need to rename themselves DDisAAdvantage. :-(
I hate the premise of this thread, because if enough people did this, it would water down the AAdvantage program even more to the point where they might need to rename themselves DDisAAdvantage. :-(
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Why not just rename it FlightFund.