Rumor: Project Oasis retrofitting reversal???
Mar 2, 2019, 9:57 am
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Rumor: Project Oasis retrofitting reversal???
Seems some rumors are floating around that AA may reverse some of their project Oasis plans including the elimination of a row to increase pitch to 31 inches
credit to jonnyc https://twitter.com/xJonNYC
AA leadership needs to wake up and fire the genius who came up with oasis. Plane seats suck enough, didn’t need to make them worse
im praying for improvements of any kind
*edit adding a link to same topic from view from the wing. https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...312.1532881156
credit to jonnyc https://twitter.com/xJonNYC
AA leadership needs to wake up and fire the genius who came up with oasis. Plane seats suck enough, didn’t need to make them worse
im praying for improvements of any kind
*edit adding a link to same topic from view from the wing. https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...312.1532881156
Mar 2, 2019, 10:39 am
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i agree whole heartedly with you. It’s not going to be the guy who flies once a year that gets AA to reversed their horrible decision. It’s elites voicing their opinion at every opportunity
Mar 2, 2019, 10:58 am
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I don't see it happening. The flyers that AA is really concerned about are the ones not impacted. They are sitting up front, usually on a long haul in a flat bed seat. The guy/gal flying and spending enough to make GLD, PLT and PLT PRO is a dime a dozen. Not to mention they either have no choice in the airline they fly or are a hub captive. Moreover, its not like DL and UA are providing spacious room in the back. AA's philosophy is that if someone is uncomfortable in a 30-31 inch pinch seat they should pony up the additional $$ for MCE.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:35 am
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I agree with this. If, however, the extra seats are causing boarding delays & adding to the stress of FAs I could see them giving in and reducing seat count by a row.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:35 am
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It's not that Americans find 30" coach seat pitch unacceptable - look at the growth rates of Spirit and Allegiant, or of all the United and Delta planes so configured. IMHO it's part of the value proposition: tight pitch, removing AVOD, and poor on-time performance and baggage handling is not a winning combo.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:43 am
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I don't see it happening. The flyers that AA is really concerned about are the ones not impacted. They are sitting up front, usually on a long haul in a flat bed seat. The guy/gal flying and spending enough to make GLD, PLT and PLT PRO is a dime a dozen. Not to mention they either have no choice in the airline they fly or are a hub captive. Moreover, its not like DL and UA are providing spacious room in the back. AA's philosophy is that if someone is uncomfortable in a 30-31 inch pinch seat they should pony up the additional $$ for MCE.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:51 am
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I don't see it happening. The flyers that AA is really concerned about are the ones not impacted. They are sitting up front, usually on a long haul in a flat bed seat. The guy/gal flying and spending enough to make GLD, PLT and PLT PRO is a dime a dozen. Not to mention they either have no choice in the airline they fly or are a hub captive. Moreover, its not like DL and UA are providing spacious room in the back. AA's philosophy is that if someone is uncomfortable in a 30-31 inch pinch seat they should pony up the additional $$ for MCE.
Mar 2, 2019, 11:56 am
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I'm with Catbert10 on this. The problems with the Oasis interiors are definitely not isolated to the back of the planes (although I think the economy issues are worse as they feel like a safety issue to me, not just a comfort issue). I know I'm not the only F flyer actively booking away from AA if the only option is an Oasis cabin.
Mar 2, 2019, 12:01 pm
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That is really insane. I didn't realize the F seats on the oasis birds also sucked this bad. Is it true that LCC just took their new PEY seat (which is also inferior to comparable offerings such as CX) and installed it in domestic F? Makes me happy that 1) we fly a lot less than we used to and 2) have plenty of E75 flights to choose from.
Mar 2, 2019, 12:24 pm
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That is really insane. I didn't realize the F seats on the oasis birds also sucked this bad. Is it true that LCC just took their new PEY seat (which is also inferior to comparable offerings such as CX) and installed it in domestic F? Makes me happy that 1) we fly a lot less than we used to and 2) have plenty of E75 flights to choose from.
Actually, the E75s are a great example of how to do no IFE right. I don't mind that there's no IFE on the E75 because it's just a super comfortable plane to begin with.
Mar 2, 2019, 1:01 pm
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They've also heard plenty from us who fly in MCE more often than in FC. The MCE seats on the Oasis birds are extremely tight. Obviously they have more pitch than "regular Y" on the same planebut they don't feel like an extra legroom seat. They feel like regular Y on a "normal" plane. I would certainly not be pleased if I paid $150 or whatever to sit there.