AA A321T 3 class Flagship 2x a day BOS-LAX 2 Apr - 5 Sep 2019
Sep 9, 2019, 4:17 pm
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I'd argue that a subfleet with a larger and enhanced front cabin also be used for midcons on the handful of elite heavy/high business travel routes where domestic F sells well (i.e. DFW-BOS, DFW-JFK, DFW-DCA come to mind). But now we are just dreaming, and the more variants there are the more difficult for AA to manage....
Sep 9, 2019, 8:46 pm
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Exactly. The data is clear - the paid J demand (and willingness to pay) is massively higher on NYC-LAX/SFO than any other route. The 321T is simply not viable anywhere but those two routes, and even SFO is marginal. AA's paid J yields are in the trash on BOS-LAX since UA joined B6 in being all flatbed, but there is simply no easy solution.
Sep 16, 2019, 8:52 am
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Exactly. The data is clear - the paid J demand (and willingness to pay) is massively higher on NYC-LAX/SFO than any other route. The 321T is simply not viable anywhere but those two routes, and even SFO is marginal. AA's paid J yields are in the trash on BOS-LAX since UA joined B6 in being all flatbed, but there is simply no easy solution.
AA needs to either get more 2-class planes with flat bed in J to serve this route, or sell the F cabin as J on the 321T for non NYC-LAX routes, so that they don't have a third of the plane going empty. Right now they are not competitive. Why would you book J BOS-LAX with the A321 or B737 "recliners" when you are guaranteed a flat bed on B6 and UA?
Sep 16, 2019, 10:21 am
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Disagree. I routinely buy Mint and UA biz for $400-$620 one way. I can assure you that filling the A321T's J cabin at $600 apiece (even if you are able to sell all the seats, which is certainly not a guarantee) is not going to be a profitable endeavor by any means. Those 20 J seats take the place of 72 Y seats on the non transcon A321.
Dec 10, 2019, 11:47 am
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Dec 10, 2019, 12:08 pm
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Dec 10, 2019, 12:39 pm
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You do have the option to fly through JFK on route to BOS if you're really keen on the 321T.. It'll just cost you a pretty penny and by no means optimal.
Dec 10, 2019, 6:51 pm
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Long term, they do need a 757 replacement such as a 321neo or 737MAX10 with lie flats to compete on such routes with DL and B6
Dec 10, 2019, 7:16 pm
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JetBlue has 34 Mint A321ceos that they seem to make money on transcons. It seems like there might be some money to be made with a 16J lie flat configuration on "semi-premium" transcons like BOS-LAX, LAX-DCA, maybe JFK-SFO on some days due to less demand for F.
Dec 13, 2019, 2:17 pm
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Dec 13, 2019, 2:56 pm
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