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Fraser Feb 24, 2020 5:02 pm

My AA2580 JFK-CLT tonight, a 4 row FC A321 cabin, has 4/16 free, if you count the deadhead flight crew next to me...only 2 on the upgrade list in the app. Weirdly when I checked just before boarding #2 had cleared but #1 hadn’t.

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George Feb 25, 2020 5:41 am


Originally Posted by Fraser (Post 32108907)
My AA2580 JFK-CLT tonight, a 4 row FC A321 cabin, has 4/16 free, if you count the deadhead flight crew next to me...only 2 on the upgrade list in the app. Weirdly when I checked just before boarding #2 had cleared but #1 hadn’t.

I see that from time to time and not just on 3 class a/c. I find that flights like this, 500-700 miles meaning no meal GLDs and PLTs may not want to waste 2 stickers so thus F empty seats, assuming not taken by crew.

IADCAflyer Feb 25, 2020 6:58 am


Originally Posted by MiamiAirport Formerly NY George (Post 32110557)
I see that from time to time and not just on 3 class a/c. I find that flights like this, 500-700 miles meaning no meal GLDs and PLTs may not want to waste 2 stickers so thus F empty seats, assuming not taken by crew.

This here is the answer.

CMK10 Oct 28, 2022 11:27 am

Been a while since I've seen this, at least since travel came back.

AA 4566 BDL-DCA yesterday on an EMB-175. 9/12 in First with no upgrade list.

funnyfarm299 Oct 28, 2022 2:51 pm


Originally Posted by CMK10 (Post 34715438)
Been a while since I've seen this, at least since travel came back.

AA 4566 BDL-DCA yesterday on an EMB-175. 9/12 in First with no upgrade list.

How full was Y?

I flew SAV->DCA a few weeks ago and there was a couple open F seats, but Y was barely half-full.

safari ari Nov 1, 2022 10:49 am

1/2 the F cabin was free on a 6am DEN-ORD on a Saturday, so not unexpected. But honestly as an EXP I’ve been less than 50% on UG to/from DEN the past few months.

keyw Nov 1, 2022 6:33 pm

2 seats open on my ORD-AUS a couple weeks ago even after all upgrade and standby cleared.

lrdpenn Nov 1, 2022 6:59 pm

Twice this year on the Saturday evening JFK<>LAX (non red-eye) I have had an empty seat next to me in J. One was before the sticker conversion (so not the same), one after.

Love when it happens, even better than an F op-up. I can have a personal screen just dedicated to the flight map :)

madmanshoney Nov 1, 2022 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by lrdpenn (Post 34725938)
Twice this year on the Saturday evening JFK<>LAX (non red-eye) I have had an empty seat next to me in J. One was before the sticker conversion (so not the same), one after.

Love when it happens, even better than an F op-up. I can have a personal screen just dedicated to the flight map :)

I like to use the vacant aisle tray to hold my empty bubbly or Woodford on the rocks glassware. Plus the window sight line is better. Disagree on the F op-up.

PresRDC Nov 2, 2022 11:36 am

I often see empty F seats on our flight to CLT (from SBN). I think there just aren't that many elites living in the area and it's not a community with a large population of folks willing to buy first class tickets. Interestingly, I've not seen the same on our DFW flights. I think that route is more business-travel oriented and probably gets more DFW-based elites flying that CLT gets CLT-based elites.

When AA runs its football weekend flights to/from LGA, the first cabin is always full.

Long Train Runnin Nov 6, 2022 6:16 am

Finally get to post in this thread.

I am the only customer in F this morning on CMH-LGA on a 175.

There are probably only 25 people on the whole flight.

Almost feels like 2020 this morning.

enviroian Dec 3, 2022 9:43 am

Flew CLL to DFW last night on a 175. I was upgraded at the window and out of 9 F seats 4 were occupied. I counted 23 people in the back.

What a great flight--quiet, had two beers, and watched out the clean window of the quiet 175.

CMK10 Mar 27, 2023 9:00 am

Had a couple last weekend:

1. AA 4361 RDU-JFK EMB-175: Booked 6/12 in F. As this flight leaves after 8 PM I'm hardly surprised. In fact, I don't know why AA even runs this leg, especially on a Saturday
2. AA 4334 ORH-JFK EMB-175. Booked 1/12 in F. My first time solo in F since April, 2020.

brenc3 Mar 27, 2023 2:52 pm

BOS-PHL last Sunday on A321 had ~4 F seats free. We were originally scheduled to fly with an A320 but an A321 was subbed in that morning, along with a variable 2-3hr delay (it went up and down all day!) that I suspect caused a lot of pax to misconnect. Y was also light, maybe 60 seats free if I recall.

EXP100 Mar 29, 2023 6:41 am

Last night ATL/MIA went out over 3 hours late. By that time the flight was down to maybe 50 paxs-321neo. One upgrade request of course cleared. GA went back and pulled random paxs from Y to fill F. Another 20 minute delay on the tarmac as the Captain indicated the shifting of seats forced a weight and balance re-calculation.


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