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355F1 Nov 5, 2018 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by krazieman (Post 30396517)
Actually true. I guess I've never looked at S. Africa flights. Most of my flying is US-Europe, US-Asia.

My new favorite MR now is LAX-BOM on BA metal.

$2600 all in for J with the Chase BA CC & AARP discounts.

Now 40k EQMs and $4,972 EQDs.

You can book this price almost all year and sometimes even on short notice. :)

enviroian Nov 5, 2018 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by 355F1 (Post 30396673)
$2600 all in for J with the Chase BA CC & AARP discounts.

wow can you tell me where you find these? Can you PM me so I don't derail this thread?

Dallas49er Nov 5, 2018 1:28 pm

This will be Mr. Parker's death sentence
 
"Those Who Do Not Learn History Are Doomed To Repeat It." -George Santayana

The "Wirehouse" Financial Services Industry Merrill Lynch, UBS, Morgan Stanley, SmithBarney, Prudential Securities, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, J. P. Morgan, and more tried this "Strategy" in 2003-6.

Simply put-"No more poor people". Poor being defined as less than $9,999,999 in investable assets. Corporate Strategy-It was easier and more "cost effective" to deal with the wealthy, than people with less $

Fast forward-2008. There are a finite number of people with $10,000, 000 to invest (who knew?). Advisors were leaving to small organizations that welcomed their "poor" clients, Clients were deserting like it was the Titanic, feeling "unwelcome".. Wirehouse revenues down.

Solution:OMG! Poor people DON"T suck. ALL those CEO's are now "retired".

So, Mr. Parker, Mr Delta, and Mr. Munoz, if some of the biggest , brightest, intelligent, and arrogant MBA's (from some of the "finest" :td: MBA programs in the universe) couldn't make the same strategy you are now embracing religiously following work with people WITH money, what makes YOU think this time it will be different in your $10 makes-a difference-industry?

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Einstein

george 3 Nov 5, 2018 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by beachfan (Post 30395709)


F will still be full. For non impacted ExAts already over the $15k EQD, what does it matter how many places below you others are, if they are already below you? Exp Desk is already a shell if it’s former self.

Where is the advantage to high value fliers of the higher EQD requirement,, other than knowing its more exclusive.

Agreed - I flew JFK to AUS, then AUS-DFW-JFK return last week. There were 27 u/g requests to Austin, 49 between AUS and DFW, and a mere 19 returning to JFK. The LGA DFW flights are regularly 30-50 u/g requests, and as such I am regularly about 8th on the list.

foxberg Nov 5, 2018 1:34 pm

Hi, with the recent draconian changes to FF programs it's becoming virtually impossible next year for me to requalify for the third year of my EXP, especially that $3K for was taken away from us from Aviator Red benefits. I have a legal citizenship in another country. What negative effect would it have on my AA membership if I changed my address there to a different country and hence be exempt from the EQD requirements? Thanks in advance.

andersonCooper Nov 5, 2018 1:36 pm


Originally Posted by foxberg (Post 30396712)
Hi, with the recent draconian changes to FF programs it's becoming virtually impossible next year for me to requalify for the third year of my EXP, especially that $3K for was taken away from us from Aviator Red benefits. I have a legal citizenship in another country. What negative effect would it have on my AA membership if I changed my address there to a different country and hence be exempt from the EQD requirements? Thanks in advance.

No such exemption exists.

foxberg Nov 5, 2018 1:43 pm

EQD is only a requirement for US based members. If the residence address is in another country then EQD requirement is waved off.

Catbert10 Nov 5, 2018 1:44 pm

UA is the program with the foreign address exemption, not AA. Or at least today there's an exemption. Tomorrow it may be gone.

andersonCooper Nov 5, 2018 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by foxberg (Post 30396757)
EQD is only a requirement for US based members. If the residence address is in another country then EQD requirement is waved off.

Not on AA.

foxberg Nov 5, 2018 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by Catbert10 (Post 30396758)
UA is the program with the foreign address exemption, not AA. Or at least today there's an exemption. Tomorrow it may be gone.

I knew about UA exemption and I guess I was mistaken about AA doing the same. I can't find this being mentioned anywhere :( Maybe it's time to do a status match next year and move to UA then.

genotonda Nov 5, 2018 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by bse118 (Post 30396671)
Increased EQM earnings on partners don't offset higher EQD thresholds..

You do have a possibility of those who, prior to this change, were 15k+ on EQD, but sub 100k on EQM, due to reduced mileage earnings on some partner flights, who now may become EXP due to the increased EQM earned.

andersonCooper Nov 5, 2018 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by foxberg (Post 30396780)
I knew about UA exemption and I guess I was mistaken about AA doing the same. I can't find this being mentioned anywhere :( Maybe it's time to do a status match next year and move to UA then.

Be careful there, as mentioned above "tomorrow it might be gone".

Also, credits earnings on UA are different - you do not earn credits from partner marketed flights (*A mostly) IIRC.

enviroian Nov 5, 2018 2:04 pm

Maybe it’s time to take my $$ to Spirit. What’s their top tired elite level called—super bird??

zzpitt Nov 5, 2018 2:11 pm

This will knock me out of EXP in 2020 as well. With travel already booked out for the rest of 2018, I'm looking at approximately 100,500 EQM and approximately $14k EQD (with $6k coming from AAviator Silver bonuses) for this year. I can't see a scenario where I go from $8k actual airfare spend up to $12k next year, so it's probably down to PlatPro for me. I agree with some of the posts above, from an domestic upgrade perspective, at least I wouldn't have to start collecting stickers again, and I'd probably be around the same spot on the list anyway relative to where I am now (albeit maybe a little lower after losing $3k in credit card bonus, but so will many others I'm sure). I think the only losses I'd even notice would be the no SWUs (which in the end, we'd probably end up using miles for an F or J award instead of paying a cash fare just to use the SWU, so probably come out ahead there), losing the free award mile reinstatement (which means we'd need more concrete plans before we booked an award) and the loss of free cheese plate when I'm flying in the back (I can dish out the $7 if I'm really hungry I guess). Being based out of PHL, unless I want to start flying Southwest or connect in Chicago (UA) or Atlanta/Detroit (Delta) on every trip, there's not like I have much choice anyway.

xliioper Nov 5, 2018 2:16 pm


Originally Posted by Catbert10 (Post 30396758)
UA is the program with the foreign address exemption, not AA. Or at least today there's an exemption. Tomorrow it may be gone.

Both UA and DL have foreign address exemptions.


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