Considering Status Run for EXP -- Worth it?
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Considering Status Run for EXP -- Worth it?
I got offered a Status Challenge by AA in the mail and I am now seriously thinking of doing a Status Run to get up to Executive Platinum (35,000 EQMs)
What hurts is that I got this in the mail after I came back from Hong Kong and I had 12,000 EQMs post on my paid flight on Cathay flight that missed this by 2 days!! And believe me I called and called to see if they could backdate.
I have a small window of time in November when I'm visiting family in Seoul when I can do it. So far the best deal I could find is PEK-HKG-LAX on Cathay in J for $2300 that would net me 25,000 EQMs for the round trip. Should I do it? I’d land at 1pm LA time and then get back on the plane at 11pm.
This was much more appealing when I thought I had 12K EQMs in the bag, but even with out it I figure I could make up the remaining 10K with domestic work trips that come up from now until early Jan.
I probably do 1-2 domestic trips per month on average for work, and then Asia 3x yearly and Europe 2-3x yearly. I usually book with points for J for longhauls.
I need some moral support -- is EXP worth it? Would you guys do the same?
What hurts is that I got this in the mail after I came back from Hong Kong and I had 12,000 EQMs post on my paid flight on Cathay flight that missed this by 2 days!! And believe me I called and called to see if they could backdate.
I have a small window of time in November when I'm visiting family in Seoul when I can do it. So far the best deal I could find is PEK-HKG-LAX on Cathay in J for $2300 that would net me 25,000 EQMs for the round trip. Should I do it? I’d land at 1pm LA time and then get back on the plane at 11pm.
This was much more appealing when I thought I had 12K EQMs in the bag, but even with out it I figure I could make up the remaining 10K with domestic work trips that come up from now until early Jan.
I probably do 1-2 domestic trips per month on average for work, and then Asia 3x yearly and Europe 2-3x yearly. I usually book with points for J for longhauls.
I need some moral support -- is EXP worth it? Would you guys do the same?
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1. For your domestic runs, do you book Y or J
2. Are they long flights?
3. How much do you value upgrades?
4. How much would a MR run cost you? And would you enjoy it?
There isn't a universal answer to this. I probably would do it, but I'm also a travel nut who loves being on an airplane.
2. Are they long flights?
3. How much do you value upgrades?
4. How much would a MR run cost you? And would you enjoy it?
There isn't a universal answer to this. I probably would do it, but I'm also a travel nut who loves being on an airplane.
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1. For your domestic runs, do you book Y or J
2. Are they long flights?
3. How much do you value upgrades?
4. How much would a MR run cost you? And would you enjoy it?
There isn't a universal answer to this. I probably would do it, but I'm also a travel nut who loves being on an airplane.
2. Are they long flights?
3. How much do you value upgrades?
4. How much would a MR run cost you? And would you enjoy it?
There isn't a universal answer to this. I probably would do it, but I'm also a travel nut who loves being on an airplane.
2. I do transcon 1 out of 3 flights
3. I value them mostly on transcon/lie-flats and when I fly with my family (we have a 1.5 yr old daughter). Otherwise I couldn't care about domestic "First Class"
4. It would cost $2300 and yes I probably would enjoy it. As much I like flying in J or F, I have never done a back to back flight, though
On another note, I just called AA to verify flights on CX count toward the challenge. Apparently they don't. I was considering QF and CX for this but its only BA, Finn Air, JAL or Iberia. Good thing I checked before I booked this ticket!
If anyone knows differently, please let me know.
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Spending money on flights just to meet EQD requirements, and angry about it
You really should read this thread before you want to be in a self-created prison as John describes.
No.2: You will probably hate yourself because any challenges will have to be in AA-operated or JV-partners flight. CX isn't on the list.
You really should read this thread before you want to be in a self-created prison as John describes.
No.2: You will probably hate yourself because any challenges will have to be in AA-operated or JV-partners flight. CX isn't on the list.
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I have to admit some of these threads are fun to me.
You and only you can decide if it is worth it. My self it may be worth it at end of year cause my EQM may be short. My rolling eqd keeps me at top of upgrade list out of dfw about 80% of the time. If dropped to PP my upgrades would drop dramatically. Upgrades are the only thing keeping me loyal.
As always it depends on what you want out of EP?
You and only you can decide if it is worth it. My self it may be worth it at end of year cause my EQM may be short. My rolling eqd keeps me at top of upgrade list out of dfw about 80% of the time. If dropped to PP my upgrades would drop dramatically. Upgrades are the only thing keeping me loyal.
As always it depends on what you want out of EP?
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1. I always book Y for domestic trips as they are work trips.
2. I do transcon 1 out of 3 flights
3. I value them mostly on transcon/lie-flats and when I fly with my family (we have a 1.5 yr old daughter). Otherwise I couldn't care about domestic "First Class"
4. It would cost $2300 and yes I probably would enjoy it. As much I like flying in J or F, I have never done a back to back flight, though
On another note, I just called AA to verify flights on CX count toward the challenge. Apparently they don't. I was considering QF and CX for this but its only BA, Finn Air, JAL or Iberia. Good thing I checked before I booked this ticket!
If anyone knows differently, please let me know.
2. I do transcon 1 out of 3 flights
3. I value them mostly on transcon/lie-flats and when I fly with my family (we have a 1.5 yr old daughter). Otherwise I couldn't care about domestic "First Class"
4. It would cost $2300 and yes I probably would enjoy it. As much I like flying in J or F, I have never done a back to back flight, though
On another note, I just called AA to verify flights on CX count toward the challenge. Apparently they don't. I was considering QF and CX for this but its only BA, Finn Air, JAL or Iberia. Good thing I checked before I booked this ticket!
If anyone knows differently, please let me know.
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Yes, upgrades would be the primary reason I wanted to get EXP. I can do points+cash upgrade but when we are flying 3 people, status would help upgrade the family (I assume). Plus SWU would be good too.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
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I have come to appreciate the 15k+$75 more lately, when combined with just buying F on shorter trips. I may only be Gold but I'm the one sitting in F.
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Spending money on flights just to meet EQD requirements, and angry about it
You really should read this thread before you want to be in a self-created prison as John describes.
No.2: You will probably hate yourself because any challenges will have to be in AA-operated or JV-partners flight. CX isn't on the list.
You really should read this thread before you want to be in a self-created prison as John describes.
No.2: You will probably hate yourself because any challenges will have to be in AA-operated or JV-partners flight. CX isn't on the list.
In mine, the price of obtaining the same product that I've had for years (Platinum status) was effectively increased by an airline that faces little competition due to some recent mergers and has strong, anti-competitive tactics and pricing power.
In this case, the OP is considering spending more for a different and better product: a higher level of status.
OP, $2300 is pretty steep and it sounds like you travel in style anyway, so I'd decline, unless you just want to see family again.
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Yes, upgrades would be the primary reason I wanted to get EXP. I can do points+cash upgrade but when we are flying 3 people, status would help upgrade the family (I assume). Plus SWU would be good too.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
Status > no status for sure. The question is what is the benefit worth. If 2300 USD is nothing to you (or isn't a major expense), then by all means go for it. That couples with miles + copay and you should be as good as one can be.
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Yes, upgrades would be the primary reason I wanted to get EXP. I can do points+cash upgrade but when we are flying 3 people, status would help upgrade the family (I assume). Plus SWU would be good too.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
So I shouldn’t be so miffed about those CX flights not crediting since they wouldn’t have counted. Oh well.
I’m now looking at ICN-LHR-HEL on BA and AY for $2300 now.
Since I’m a Cc churner, I have not had the need to be loyal to any one airline. I book into J and F far more frequently now than when I used to have elite status (Delta, United, Air France). So being able to take a short cut to EXP is all cake for me (sorry lifetime AA loyalists)
One question about the SWU—does your ability to use them during booking directly correspond to award space avail? I have searched for AA awards for some Asia routes and its slim pickin’s.
Your status may help one travel companion with higher upgrade priority.
Even as EP, you will lose out in upgrade priority to Concierge Keys and to EPs with higher EQD spend in the last 12 months than you. See Upgrade Priority: Status, Upgrade Type, Rolling 12 Month EQD Spend
EP is not an upgrade panacea. But if the status appeals to you and you feel it’s justified, go for it.
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Let me guess...that fare isn't available dfw-xxx-hkg/pek
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Correct. For some reason flights ex-PEK are really cheap. I wanted to fly out of ICN so I searched ICN, TYO, PVG, PEK and HKG since I could easily position. Flights in J ex-US are a rip off.