AA can't fly as many pax back to the mainland as they fly from the mainland to Hawaii
Sep 25, 2018, 10:09 am
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Last year around this time I was on an HNL -> PHX in J when they were looking for volunteers. I took a $1,000 voucher and took the HNL -> DFW in J on the 777! Much better J product so I came out ahead.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:04 am
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I wonder how often they have to deny boarding to or offload actual revenue passengers instead of just nonrevs.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:14 am
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I wouldn't call the decision to use this plane on this route short sighted, they didn't have a lot of options with the 757 gone. The problem is they are not planning loads very well, and it's going to get worse as they add more of these planes to PHX routes.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:18 am
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It's worth noting that it's expected that overall capacity will increase to Hawaii with the addition of WN to the market, while demand should remain relatively consent. It should reduce some demand for AA tickets.
Sep 25, 2018, 11:30 am
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If demand is exceeding capacity because there's a gulf between the 321 and the 777/333 (too few 757, 767, 332 needed for TATL routes) then AA should price accordingly. But as stated above some of the paxs may be non revers and AA still might come ahead if it has to pay for VDBs.
Sep 25, 2018, 2:18 pm
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On the other hand Southwest is not adding any premium seats to the market. Years ago it was pretty much a guaranteed EXP upgrade LAX-LIH. Since the A321's have come online I often struggle to even find an F seat for sale.
Sep 25, 2018, 8:49 pm
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That's disappointing to know. This sub fleet of planes have long stage lengths, why do they configure them the same as the rest of the fleet? A few extra inches in F and a foot rest would have been nice. And add an extra row of first for 20 seats. Sheesh.
Sep 25, 2018, 8:51 pm
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Perhaps they de used not to do that because the A321neos will displace the current A321S? (Inherent cheapness.)
Sep 25, 2018, 8:55 pm
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The problem is that it's very inefficient and costly to operate very small numbers of an aircraft type. Training, including pilot certification and scheduling, cabin crew training (with most USA airlines requiring FAs to be qualified on all aircraft in the fleet, maintenance (including training), parts (including inventory costs at various hubs), etc. really become expensive, although the minumum number of matching aircraft needed to obtain most of the efficiently gains is actually very reasonable. In fact, in an earlier era, the number was documented to be about six in a study by the CAB that helped to support the move to deregulate airlines.
Sep 25, 2018, 9:21 pm
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That said I won’t be shocked to see the Hawaii neos configured the exact same way as the mainland (non-ETOPS) neos. At least they should have satellite Internet (which still won’t work to overwater Hawaii if they go with ViaSat as they have been - another brilliant plan).
And that also probably means the same seat layout in a premium light configuration (compared to the 757’s they replace).
Sep 25, 2018, 9:35 pm
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Definitely possible. An indicator of this is that they installed Gogo ATG on these planes. Why do that when it’s only good for the short time it can be in contact with the antennas on the west coast and these airframes only fly to Hawaii?
That said I won’t be shocked to see the Hawaii neos configured the exact same way as the mainland (non-ETOPS) neos. At least they should have satellite Internet (which still won’t work to overwater Hawaii if they go with ViaSat as they have been - another brilliant plan).
And that also probably means the same seat layout in a premium light configuration (compared to the 757’s they replace).
Sep 25, 2018, 10:23 pm
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Sep 25, 2018, 11:06 pm
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Sep 25, 2018, 11:26 pm
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Sep 25, 2018, 11:38 pm
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For the “worlds largest airline” that is the most pathetic WiFi coverage.
maybe the entertainment content is at least streamed via an onboard server which doesn’t need WiFi, but geez that’s sad.
maybe the entertainment content is at least streamed via an onboard server which doesn’t need WiFi, but geez that’s sad.