AA and CLT / Charlotte Douglas Airport Expansion
#1
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AA and CLT / Charlotte Douglas Airport Expansion
Here's a good update/description of the completed "first segment" of the CLT Concourse A Gate expansion. Although AA won't use these gates, they will benefit from vacancies that occur as other airlines (UA, B6, WN,..) move here. Watch out JFK, CLT is on the move
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...214422939.html
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...214422939.html
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Here's a good update/description of the completed "first segment" of the CLT Concourse A Gate expansion. Although AA won't use these gates, they will benefit from vacancies that occur as other airlines (UA, B6, WN,..) move here. Watch out JFK, CLT is on the move
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...214422939.html
https://www.charlotteobserver.com/ne...214422939.html
#7
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From talking with folks at the airport information counter, Concourse A North will open this week. AA won't get much benefit as Delta will take over Concourse A with the exception of two gates. It would be nice if Delta opened a SkyClub to supplement the awful selection of lounges at CLT. It is hard to believe the AA clubs have no showers. But those with Priority Pass can use their free hour to take a shower at the Minute Suites near the restaurants between B and C concourses. By 2023, the connector to A North will sport 16 - 18 additional new gates.
#8
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From talking with folks at the airport information counter, Concourse A North will open this week. AA won't get much benefit as Delta will take over Concourse A with the exception of two gates. It would be nice if Delta opened a SkyClub to supplement the awful selection of lounges at CLT. It is hard to believe the AA clubs have no showers. But those with Priority Pass can use their free hour to take a shower at the Minute Suites near the restaurants between B and C concourses. By 2023, the connector to A North will sport 16 - 18 additional new gates.
A is getting further expanded but so are E, C, and B. Destination CLT Projects The airport is aiming to be able to handle the same amount of volume as ATL today, 66ish million.
#9
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If I’m not mistaken, I recently read that AA was getting 7 of the 13 gates at the old Terminal “A”. Delta currently operates out of 6 gates in Terminal “A”, so it doesn’t appear that Delta will be acquiring any additional gates. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
#10
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AA will take over 7 of the gates in the existing concourse A after it gets renovated, so some time next year.
#11
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You sir are correct, AA has intentions to assume the entire old airport (less a few gates) it looks like and squeeze every other carrier in the A north expansion pitching to them a more modern CLT while giving AA more gates. As much as I hate CLT and LUS aircraft it shows CLT is dedicated to AA and will allow them to take over as much as they can.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...nce-at-cl.html
"Company president Robert Isom noted the airline recently gained access to seven more gates at the Charlotte airport that will begin service in the fall of 2019."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#37b5763614a2
" Over time, as the airport continues to expand Concourse A, American will gain access to some A gates, and the concourses it uses most will be widened, he said"
Also dont bet on CLT increasing TATL flights anytime soon.
#12
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You sir are correct, AA has intentions to assume the entire old airport (less a few gates) it looks like and squeeze every other carrier in the A north expansion pitching to them a more modern CLT while giving AA more gates. As much as I hate CLT and LUS aircraft it shows CLT is dedicated to AA and will allow them to take over as much as they can.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...nce-at-cl.html
"Company president Robert Isom noted the airline recently gained access to seven more gates at the Charlotte airport that will begin service in the fall of 2019."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#37b5763614a2
" Over time, as the airport continues to expand Concourse A, American will gain access to some A gates, and the concourses it uses most will be widened, he said"
Also dont bet on CLT increasing TATL flights anytime soon.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...nce-at-cl.html
"Company president Robert Isom noted the airline recently gained access to seven more gates at the Charlotte airport that will begin service in the fall of 2019."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#37b5763614a2
" Over time, as the airport continues to expand Concourse A, American will gain access to some A gates, and the concourses it uses most will be widened, he said"
Also dont bet on CLT increasing TATL flights anytime soon.
#13
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 167
You sir are correct, AA has intentions to assume the entire old airport (less a few gates) it looks like and squeeze every other carrier in the A north expansion pitching to them a more modern CLT while giving AA more gates. As much as I hate CLT and LUS aircraft it shows CLT is dedicated to AA and will allow them to take over as much as they can.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...nce-at-cl.html
"Company president Robert Isom noted the airline recently gained access to seven more gates at the Charlotte airport that will begin service in the fall of 2019."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#37b5763614a2
" Over time, as the airport continues to expand Concourse A, American will gain access to some A gates, and the concourses it uses most will be widened, he said"
Also dont bet on CLT increasing TATL flights anytime soon.
https://www.bizjournals.com/charlott...nce-at-cl.html
"Company president Robert Isom noted the airline recently gained access to seven more gates at the Charlotte airport that will begin service in the fall of 2019."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tedreed.../#37b5763614a2
" Over time, as the airport continues to expand Concourse A, American will gain access to some A gates, and the concourses it uses most will be widened, he said"
Also dont bet on CLT increasing TATL flights anytime soon.
#14
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I would have to hope so. If I were AA AC Planing I would recommend an overhaul of AC's at CLT being 80% of the passengers will be connecting which in my mind are the ideal AC Members. But also being they have 90% of the market share who cares about the lounges there in their opinion. AC's may make or break someone in say LAX or ORD, but not CLT.
I do know they are trying to bring in more 78X's but it looks like AA wants to dominate the US Domestic Market and use JV's built off OW. I have a feeling AA wants to reduce risk. If they allow JAL/ CX take TPAC, Qantas take Oceania, LATAM Latin (Central/South) America, AA North America, then you have BA with all TATL. The big hole is Asia/Africa/Canada but they could fill over time. This will allow each airline to focus on its own region and product which lowering competition will raise prices. I have a feeling this will be the next step for all airline alliances. True JV's shrinking airline reaches while increasing profit sharing. Now AA can focus on taking out Spirit rather than Air France and will let BA go head to head with them.
Could be wrong though just speculation but remember less is more.
Could be wrong though just speculation but remember less is more.
#15
Join Date: Jul 2014
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I would have to hope so. If I were AA AC Planing I would recommend an overhaul of AC's at CLT being 80% of the passengers will be connecting which in my mind are the ideal AC Members. But also being they have 90% of the market share who cares about the lounges there in their opinion. AC's may make or break someone in say LAX or ORD, but not CLT.
I do know they are trying to bring in more 78X's but it looks like AA wants to dominate the US Domestic Market and use JV's built off OW. I have a feeling AA wants to reduce risk. If they allow JAL/ CX take TPAC, Qantas take Oceania, LATAM Latin (Central/South) America, AA North America, then you have BA with all TATL. The big hole is Asia/Africa/Canada but they could fill over time. This will allow each airline to focus on its own region and product which lowering competition will raise prices. I have a feeling this will be the next step for all airline alliances. True JV's shrinking airline reaches while increasing profit sharing. Now AA can focus on taking out Spirit rather than Air France and will let BA go head to head with them.
Could be wrong though just speculation but remember less is more.
I do know they are trying to bring in more 78X's but it looks like AA wants to dominate the US Domestic Market and use JV's built off OW. I have a feeling AA wants to reduce risk. If they allow JAL/ CX take TPAC, Qantas take Oceania, LATAM Latin (Central/South) America, AA North America, then you have BA with all TATL. The big hole is Asia/Africa/Canada but they could fill over time. This will allow each airline to focus on its own region and product which lowering competition will raise prices. I have a feeling this will be the next step for all airline alliances. True JV's shrinking airline reaches while increasing profit sharing. Now AA can focus on taking out Spirit rather than Air France and will let BA go head to head with them.
Could be wrong though just speculation but remember less is more.