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Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 30906403)
On the other hand, starting sometime in April/May, AA is drawing JFK-BOS down to a pathetic once daily flight that is poorly timed to connect with international service at JFK. JFK-BOS leaves after 10pm while BOS-JFK leaves in the early morning. What purpose does that single flight serve if it doesn't feed any international flights at JFK?
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 30908755)
JFK-BOS goes back to 5x daily in July. Looks like it's just a temporary reduction.
Originally Posted by AANYC1981
(Post 30907467)
Everytime I’ve been on this flight it’s been heavy connections to/from LatAm. |
Originally Posted by Adelphos
(Post 30908511)
I guess the true indication of whether AA is really pulling back in NYC would be if they cut routes like LGA to PBI further as opposed to the various JFK cuts. |
Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 30906403)
On the other hand, starting sometime in April/May, AA is drawing JFK-BOS down to a pathetic once daily flight that is poorly timed to connect with international service at JFK. JFK-BOS leaves after 10pm while BOS-JFK leaves in the early morning. What purpose does that single flight serve if it doesn't feed any international flights at JFK?
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Originally Posted by LBJ
(Post 30908755)
JFK-BOS goes back to 5x daily in July. Looks like it's just a temporary reduction.
LAS also permanently goes down to two daily flights. SAN/SEA goes down to 1x daily. Side note - flying between PIT/JFK to connect to TATL flight is very frustrating. AA charges more to fly PIT-JFK to connect to a TATL flight even though the flight loads are very poor on this route. For our upcoming trip to LHR, we are connecting in DCA on the outbound to JFK :rolleyes: I suppose this is what happens when you lose economics of scale necessitating to charge a premium to make the "hub" profitable. Side note 2 - AA is now definitely feeling the squeeze at PHL operationally after rebanking PHL (eliminated two banks and made the remaining ones bigger) and trying to make PHL the main TATL hub where there are severe infrastructure limitations. On our PIT-PHL flights its becoming more common that we have to sit on the tarmac at PIT because there is no gate or space to park at PHL if we arrive early. |
Originally Posted by golfingboy
(Post 30974302)
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Side note - flying between PIT/JFK to connect to TATL flight is very frustrating. AA charges more to fly PIT-JFK to connect to a TATL flight even though the flight loads are very poor on this route. For our upcoming trip to LHR, we are connecting in DCA on the outbound to JFK :rolleyes: I suppose this is what happens when you lose economics of scale necessitating to charge a premium to make the "hub" profitable. Side note 2 - AA is now definitely feeling the squeeze at PHL operationally after rebanking PHL (eliminated two banks and made the remaining ones bigger) and trying to make PHL the main TATL hub where there are severe infrastructure limitations. On our PIT-PHL flights its becoming more common that we have to sit on the tarmac at PIT because there is no gate or space to park at PHL if we arrive early. The statement : " AA is definitely feeling the squeeze at PHL operationally after rebanking" is a personal and refutable opinion. If there were "severe infrastructure limitations" at PHL, AA would have abandoned it, not bulked it up into its now "main TATL Hub". Delaying the departure of a flight that would arrive earlier than scheduled and tie up a gate that was scheduled for an on-time arrival is very typical at most Hubs, such as JFK, LAX, ORD, etc.. It's called schedule/gate management. |
Arriving at JFK this evening was truly sad....not a single AE plane in the regional gates and a handful of mainline planes to be seen.....terminal was a virtual ghost town at 730pm |
Originally Posted by AANYC1981
(Post 30976498)
Arriving at JFK this evening was truly sad....not a single AE plane in the regional gates and a handful of mainline planes to be seen.....terminal was a virtual ghost town at 730pm |
Originally Posted by AANYC1981
(Post 30976498)
Arriving at JFK this evening was truly sad....not a single AE plane in the regional gates and a handful of mainline planes to be seen.....terminal was a virtual ghost town at 730pm |
Ugh, looks like the 7am AA33 JFK-LAX (and it's return), which was scheduled into July / August, has been removed again (at least temporarily); I got to see if I can get onto AA1 at 8am, rather than AA171 at 6am (& an ungodly 4am wake-up...). |
Originally Posted by perseus11
(Post 30976486)
The statement : " AA is definitely feeling the squeeze at PHL operationally after rebanking" is a personal and refutable opinion.
If there were "severe infrastructure limitations" at PHL, AA would have abandoned it, not bulked it up into its now "main TATL Hub". |
MIA is also a mess in the late afternoon/early evenings. Landing early in particular means a trip into the area of unwanted planes. I live in MIA and as the minutes tick and tick away I can see the stress level rising as connections are getting tighter and tighter as the Captain keeps telling us that he's still waiting for the gate to become unoccupied. Since AA can blame missed connections (often the only/last one to SA, CA, the Caribbean) on airport flow, AA can tell paxs to make and pay for their own hotel and meal arrangements. (Possibly CKs/EXPs making a trip to the AC might find different). I don't think Parker and company really care. They'd rather have the financial upside of banked hubs with little concern about the pax.
The moral of the story is sadly that anything less than a 90 minute connection at MIA can be problematic. More OT, I was looking at the board in the JFK AC the other day. Europe seems to be down to MAD, BCN, CDG, MXP and LHR. I wonder if BCN is at risk of going to PHL. I think the other ones will stick. SA seemed to be GRU, SCL, and EZE. I assume those will stick, particularly GRU and EZE. IIRC the only Caribbean destination seemed to be BDA. |
Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 30978117)
MIA is also a mess in the late afternoon/early evenings. Landing early in particular means a trip into the area of unwanted planes. I live in MIA and as the minutes tick and tick away I can see the stress level rising as connections are getting tighter and tighter as the Captain keeps telling us that he's still waiting for the gate to become unoccupied. Since AA can blame missed connections (often the only/last one to SA, CA, the Caribbean) on airport flow, AA can tell paxs to make and pay for their own hotel and meal arrangements. (Possibly CKs/EXPs making a trip to the AC might find different). I don't think Parker and company really care. They'd rather have the financial upside of banked hubs with little concern about the pax.
The moral of the story is sadly that anything less than a 90 minute connection at MIA can be problematic. More OT, I was looking at the board in the JFK AC the other day. Europe seems to be down to MAD, BCN, CDG, MXP and LHR. I wonder if BCN is at risk of going to PHL. I think the other ones will stick. SA seemed to be GRU, SCL, and EZE. I assume those will stick, particularly GRU and EZE. IIRC the only Caribbean destination seemed to be BDA. |
Originally Posted by newyorkgeorge
(Post 30978117)
MIA is also a mess in the late afternoon/early evenings. Landing early in particular means a trip into the area of unwanted planes. I live in MIA and as the minutes tick and tick away I can see the stress level rising as connections are getting tighter and tighter as the Captain keeps telling us that he's still waiting for the gate to become unoccupied. Since AA can blame missed connections (often the only/last one to SA, CA, the Caribbean) on airport flow, AA can tell paxs to make and pay for their own hotel and meal arrangements. (Possibly CKs/EXPs making a trip to the AC might find different). I don't think Parker and company really care. They'd rather have the financial upside of banked hubs with little concern about the pax.
The moral of the story is sadly that anything less than a 90 minute connection at MIA can be problematic. More OT, I was looking at the board in the JFK AC the other day. Europe seems to be down to MAD, BCN, CDG, MXP and LHR. I wonder if BCN is at risk of going to PHL. I think the other ones will stick. SA seemed to be GRU, SCL, and EZE. I assume those will stick, particularly GRU and EZE. IIRC the only Caribbean destination seemed to be BDA. |
Originally Posted by lowfareair
(Post 30978220)
They also have FCO for Europe and a bunch of seasonal Caribbean flights (some may be weekly rather than daily). I could see MXP eventually moving to PHL solely due to the amount of airlines on that route (DL, EK, Air Italy, AZ from JFK + UA from EWR), but I'm not sure if they would move any other Europe flights to PHL for a 2nd daily or just discontinue them from JFK and maintain PHL at its existing level for that city.
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