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Austin787 Apr 25, 2019 10:59 am


Originally Posted by FlyerWx (Post 31036427)
are you talking about JFK T8? Because I've found immigration in the afternoon to be fairly quick, even with multiple 777s arriving. The bags were a different story, but still not excessive. Maybe I've been lucky??

But I think you may be thinking of a T7 to T8 international to domestic connection, bc I have never needed to use the AirTrain to connect from an AA to AA flight.

I was on a DL to DL itinerary, T4 to T2 connection. Granted, connecting within the same terminal at JFK is quicker than changing terminals. My experience doing an international to domestic connection at JFK is just one data point, but I think it debunks some people's theories that connecting at JFK is always preferable to PHL. Definitely a YMMV situation.

ijgordon Apr 25, 2019 11:28 am


Originally Posted by Austin787 (Post 31036482)
I was on a DL to DL itinerary, T4 to T2 connection. Granted, connecting within the same terminal at JFK is quicker than changing terminals. My experience doing an international to domestic connection at JFK is just one data point, but I think it debunks some people's theories that connecting at JFK is always preferable to PHL. Definitely a YMMV situation.

You could have re-cleared security in T4 and then taken the jitney shuttle over to T2. Less walking, but T4 security was probably longer than T2.
Regardless, in most cases you should know whether or not you'll have to change terminals. Obviously AA-to-AA at JFK is pretty easy.

jordyn Apr 25, 2019 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerWx (Post 31036427)
are you talking about JFK T8? Because I've found immigration in the afternoon to be fairly quick, even with multiple 777s arriving. The bags were a different story, but still not excessive. Maybe I've been lucky??

I don't fly through PHL that frequently since I'm NYC-based, but my few experiences at Customs and Immigration there have been much worse with much longer lines than I've ever seen at JFK T8.

george 3 Apr 25, 2019 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by Austin787 (Post 31036247)
JFK is even worse, especially for International to domestic connections. 1+ hour lines in immigration at 5am (I can't imagine the afternoon when many flights from Europe arrive). Then a long walk with vague signage to the AirTrain. I had a much better experience at PHL - not much of a wait in immigration at 2pm (when multiple Europe flights arrive) and no need to take a train to my domestic connection.


JFK also has rude employees

I didn't think immigration opened until 6am at JFK. I've been held on the GRU JFK flight that arrived earlier than 6am every time. We were able to de-plane at 6am.

SOBE ER DOC Apr 26, 2019 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by jordyn (Post 31036718)
I don't fly through PHL that frequently since I'm NYC-based, but my few experiences at Customs and Immigration there have been much worse with much longer lines than I've ever seen at JFK T8.

Global Entry will fix that. Even during rush hour at ORD I am through in less then 2 minutes.

golfingboy Apr 26, 2019 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC (Post 31041179)
Global Entry will fix that. Even during rush hour at ORD I am through in less then 2 minutes.

ORD... Only if customs hall is not at capacity. I have been held in the hallways and they refused to let people into the central immigration hall due to overcrowding. That is despite having global entry.

In my situation about 15 intl flights arrived within thirty minutes.

jordyn Apr 27, 2019 7:50 am


Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC (Post 31041179)
Global Entry will fix that. Even during rush hour at ORD I am through in less then 2 minutes.

I have Global Entry. By far the longest Global Entry line I've ever seen was in PHL.

SOBE ER DOC Apr 27, 2019 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by jordyn (Post 31042346)
I have Global Entry. By far the longest Global Entry line I've ever seen was in PHL.

Every time I've flown through PHL I am in and out of Immigration and Customs in less than 5 minutes so I can't say I've shared your experience. My least pleasant experiences have been at MIA.

SOBE ER DOC Apr 27, 2019 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by golfingboy (Post 31041239)
ORD... Only if customs hall is not at capacity. I have been held in the hallways and they refused to let people into the central immigration hall due to overcrowding. That is despite having global entry.

In my situation about 15 intl flights arrived within thirty minutes.

If 15 int'l flights arrived into a 21 gate terminal within 30 minutes of each other there must have been some very unusual operating conditions at ORD that day.

golfingboy Apr 27, 2019 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by SOBE ER DOC (Post 31044175)
If 15 int'l flights arrived into a 21 gate terminal within 30 minutes of each other there must have been some very unusual operating conditions at ORD that day.

We arrived at around 1:45pm-ish. QR, KL, AZ, CX, UA (multiple), AA (multiple), BA, LH, OS, HU, and several others have flights arriving between 1-2pm.

In my case I was on the CX flight.

AANYC1981 Apr 29, 2019 9:07 am

LGA & first time at D9F......where does this plane actually depart from? Bus to Remote stand?

SFTNYC Apr 29, 2019 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31048684)
LGA & first time at D9F......where does this plane actually depart from? Bus to Remote stand?

Yup it's a bus gate - like 35X at DCA but even more makeshift...

AANYC1981 Apr 29, 2019 3:12 pm


Originally Posted by SFTNYC (Post 31049902)
Yup it's a bus gate - like 35X at DCA but even more makeshift...

Wonderful.......why does AA love gates via buses? UGH :/

ComplexAnalysis Apr 29, 2019 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by SFTNYC (Post 31049902)
Yup it's a bus gate - like 35X at DCA but even more makeshift...

I've had the unfortunate luck with needing these D9X gates recently ... I would call it worse than 35X.

Though, the new A gate part of the terminal is definitely much nicer than anywhere else in LGA. I've only been on AA flights to Canada from there, not sure what else tends to be based on that side.

SFTNYC Apr 30, 2019 5:53 am


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 31049991)
Wonderful.......why does AA love gates via buses? UGH :/

35X was designed like that and just got out of control over the years... D9X is at least a temporary fix / was only added within the last year or two to accommodate construction. Both should be going away in ~2021 (still a long way off).


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