Surprising Airports with no lounge access for AA elites
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I would not hold my breath on AA adding many lounges in the US. Pre-merger they closed MCI and post-merger they closed BUF...which was always busy when I was there.
I would not be surprised to see AA prune a few more from the network including GSO and PIT.
I would not be surprised to see AA prune a few more from the network including GSO and PIT.
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I was quite surprised when I was at GSO and saw an AC. Understandable why it exists, but I agree that if/when the lease runs out, I can see them closing it. With LUS, it was in their backyard so it made sense. Less now post-merger.
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I live in Dallas and this doesn't bug me. I always get dropped off at D and use the Centurion anyway but even if you only have AC the train is only 10 minutes to your gate so it's not a big hassle.
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I'm always surprised to see non-hub airports that do have a lounge. I always thought the point of a lounge was to have a place to get away between flights, which generally won't happen except at a hub.
The first time I flew to Austin, I was really shocked to see not only an AA lounge, but also a UA one.
The few times I've been in the AA lounge at AUS (before going elsewhere to connect for an international flight) it has always been rather dead. I've chatted with the lounge staff and they said it is like that all the time--except for a few hours before the afternoon BA flight to LHR, then it gets crazy.
As for LAS, HP and then briefly US, had a lounge there. But it was prior to security. The staff there were always very nice and friendly.
I'm not sure if it is still there, but I've used a gym (I think 24 Hour Fitness) before flights a few times, which made a great way to pass time waiting. It was also prior to security
The first time I flew to Austin, I was really shocked to see not only an AA lounge, but also a UA one.
The few times I've been in the AA lounge at AUS (before going elsewhere to connect for an international flight) it has always been rather dead. I've chatted with the lounge staff and they said it is like that all the time--except for a few hours before the afternoon BA flight to LHR, then it gets crazy.
As for LAS, HP and then briefly US, had a lounge there. But it was prior to security. The staff there were always very nice and friendly.
I'm not sure if it is still there, but I've used a gym (I think 24 Hour Fitness) before flights a few times, which made a great way to pass time waiting. It was also prior to security
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The issue is not how many flights --- or more properly passengers --- but projections as to how many will purchase or earn membership coupled with the cost & availability of space.
I do suspect that the sell for getting people to pay is focused largely on use of hubs. With no checked bags, OLCI, Pre-Check and a low boarding group, there is no particular reason to arrive at a departure airport for routine domestic flights much before the T-15 cut off.
I do suspect that the sell for getting people to pay is focused largely on use of hubs. With no checked bags, OLCI, Pre-Check and a low boarding group, there is no particular reason to arrive at a departure airport for routine domestic flights much before the T-15 cut off.
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With AMEX PLAT and Citi Prestige, you get access to PRIORIY PASS Lounges. [If I am taking a 1 AM red-eye out of LAS, after the AMEX CENT lounge closes at 11 PM, a walk several feet to the PP lounge (which now closes at 12:30 AM).]
Re DFW, sometimes it is MUCH less walking to use (via Skylink) a lounge out of terminal: I arrived at C37 (nearest AC is C19-C20), Skylink entrance near C32, going to D, exiting near D24 gets you VERY close to both AC and AMEX CENT lounge.
Re DFW, sometimes it is MUCH less walking to use (via Skylink) a lounge out of terminal: I arrived at C37 (nearest AC is C19-C20), Skylink entrance near C32, going to D, exiting near D24 gets you VERY close to both AC and AMEX CENT lounge.
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Clubs are a competitive tool. I will posit that presence of a club aligns with quantities of paid premium cabin travel and/or relatively high average fare coach tickets (ie big corporate contracts) - with some threshold passenger traffic number on AA at a specific airport.
Think of DTW - an airport that lost its AC it the cutbacks following 9/11. AA had a long presence at DTW - way, way pre-deregulation - focusing on automotive industry traffic. AA had effectively given up on competing against NW in Detroit as evidenced by just 1x daily to MIA, ER3s to LGA, and single-class CR7s and ER4s to ORD. Without premium fare(s) traffic there's no reason for a club. AA got some nice facilities in the 'new North' terminal in 2008 but hasn't brought back an AC. UA didn't build a club there, either.
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The issue is not how many flights --- or more properly passengers --- but projections as to how many will purchase or earn membership coupled with the cost & availability of space.
I do suspect that the sell for getting people to pay is focused largely on use of hubs. With no checked bags, OLCI, Pre-Check and a low boarding group, there is no particular reason to arrive at a departure airport for routine domestic flights much before the T-15 cut off.
I do suspect that the sell for getting people to pay is focused largely on use of hubs. With no checked bags, OLCI, Pre-Check and a low boarding group, there is no particular reason to arrive at a departure airport for routine domestic flights much before the T-15 cut off.
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Also, there used to be a Delta Crown Room/ Sky Club in terminal B.
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I know that BA also has a lounge in PHX, again makes sense as there could be connecting traffic. Plus people tend to arrive earlier for international flights, or at least I do.
And AA has several lounges around Europe and definitely at NRT. For NRT, I've used it when connecting from JL flights in Asia when I wanted to shower before an AA flight back to the USA, as the JL lounges don't have showers in the biz lounge.
All that said, I do wonder how many people purposely plan to arrive early for a domestic flight, say IAH-PHX/LAX and would pay to make it worthwhile for AA.
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There is a glass door marked "international departures lounge" near gate C1, but I haven't seen anything become of it.