ARCHIVE: AA Awards on Cathay Pacific (2016)
Aug 6, 2016, 11:50 pm
#1846
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Hi.
I booked in june CX award travel PVG-HKG-ORD-DCA all in F for April.
I just called today and changed the whole itinerary to the exact same flights, all one day later. The AA said there was a change in fare of about USD20.
Does anyone know if there is a new or higher KA/CX fee or tax or if this was just a result of somehow pricing the connections differently?
I booked in june CX award travel PVG-HKG-ORD-DCA all in F for April.
I just called today and changed the whole itinerary to the exact same flights, all one day later. The AA said there was a change in fare of about USD20.
Does anyone know if there is a new or higher KA/CX fee or tax or if this was just a result of somehow pricing the connections differently?
Aug 7, 2016, 2:26 am
#1847
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: District of Columbia
Programs: AA ExecPl, AT Gold, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond, National
Posts: 2,440
Aug 7, 2016, 3:35 am
#1848
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
It's the 'construction fee' for the HK Airport third runway, which the airport authority imposed without consent from anyone, in order to finance the construction and circumvent the blockage of our legislators...
Anyway, if this helps everyone, starting August 1st, note that there is surcharge of HKD180 for F/J and HKD160 W/Y out of HKG for every departing longhaul itinerary issued in addition to the HKD120 departure tax. HKD160 for F/J and HKD90 W/Y for shorthaul. HKD160 for F/J and HKD70 for W/Y transit pax.
Anyway, if this helps everyone, starting August 1st, note that there is surcharge of HKD180 for F/J and HKD160 W/Y out of HKG for every departing longhaul itinerary issued in addition to the HKD120 departure tax. HKD160 for F/J and HKD90 W/Y for shorthaul. HKD160 for F/J and HKD70 for W/Y transit pax.
Aug 7, 2016, 10:42 am
#1849
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: District of Columbia
Programs: AA ExecPl, AT Gold, Hyatt Globalist, IHG Diamond, Hilton Diamond, National
Posts: 2,440
It's the 'construction fee' for the HK Airport third runway, which the airport authority imposed without consent from anyone, in order to finance the construction and circumvent the blockage of our legislators...
Anyway, if this helps everyone, starting August 1st, note that there is surcharge of HKD180 for F/J and HKD160 W/Y out of HKG for every departing longhaul itinerary issued in addition to the HKD120 departure tax. HKD160 for F/J and HKD90 W/Y for shorthaul. HKD160 for F/J and HKD70 for W/Y transit pax.
Anyway, if this helps everyone, starting August 1st, note that there is surcharge of HKD180 for F/J and HKD160 W/Y out of HKG for every departing longhaul itinerary issued in addition to the HKD120 departure tax. HKD160 for F/J and HKD90 W/Y for shorthaul. HKD160 for F/J and HKD70 for W/Y transit pax.
Aug 7, 2016, 10:49 am
#1850
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: California
Programs: American, SWA, United, IHG,Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott
Posts: 1,843
This additional fee only applies when you rebook correct?
Aug 7, 2016, 11:17 am
#1851
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
Aug 7, 2016, 9:36 pm
#1852
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: AS Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Starriott LTPP
Posts: 341
Sure, To be more specific: using BA.com While waiting for F inventory to open for my flights in late July on 3 consecutive Sunday evenings at exactly 1030pm edt I found that inventory would open up for "close-in" US flights (i.e. Flights roughly within 14 days of that Sunday). So while I still checked periodically during the week because there were changes here and there, sweeping changes occurred on Sunday nights at 1030. Of course if it was F0 it wouldn't open up--I'm not describing a mistake scenario. It simply seems that on Monday mornings in Hong Kong (i.e. 1030pm edt Sunday) someone at HQ consistently did a run through the inventory and freed it up.
Aug 8, 2016, 6:16 am
#1854
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: CLT
Programs: AA ExPlat, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 1,551
So is it safe to say if you want a Monday flight ex USA it is 15 days out of the Sunday Evening trend so you really have to wait until 8 days out before the going is good?
Aug 8, 2016, 7:06 am
#1855
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: CT
Programs: AA Platinum, SPG Gold, Hyatt Platinum, Fairmont Premier, DL, CO
Posts: 168
I have 2 pre-devaluation JFK-HKG J awards booked for a trip later this month. 2 F award seats just opened. I thought I remember reading a few months back that some people were having success changing class of service but retaining old award rates for awards booked pre-devaluation, but the agent I spoke with said it will be at the new award rate. Has anyone been able to increase class of service without incurring new rates?
Aug 8, 2016, 7:52 am
#1856
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: MCO, YEG
Posts: 1,182
It shouldn't be possible to upgrade without repricing. I think you might be recalling people who were going to include a regional segment in first and pay first pricing and take a voluntary downgrade on the Transpac segment and hope to pick up F seats later. That would not require repricing because they had already paid F pricing to start with.
Aug 8, 2016, 8:47 am
#1857
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,638
I have 2 pre-devaluation JFK-HKG J awards booked for a trip later this month. 2 F award seats just opened. I thought I remember reading a few months back that some people were having success changing class of service but retaining old award rates for awards booked pre-devaluation, but the agent I spoke with said it will be at the new award rate. Has anyone been able to increase class of service without incurring new rates?
Aug 8, 2016, 12:52 pm
#1858
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 90
What are the chances of CX opening up space on DPS-Hkg ? I waited until the last minute on the in bound and nothing opened up. I had to route through Kul and it was exhausting . Are they not as generous with this nonstop route? I may even consider downgrading just to avoid a 9 hour travel day.
Aug 8, 2016, 1:07 pm
#1859
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: SEA, but up and down the coast a lot
Programs: Oceanic Airlines Gold Elite
Posts: 20,392
What are the chances of CX opening up space on DPS-Hkg ? I waited until the last minute on the in bound and nothing opened up. I had to route through Kul and it was exhausting . Are they not as generous with this nonstop route? I may even consider downgrading just to avoid a 9 hour travel day.
Back in the day they used to fly a 747 there. Now it's a 773 with less premium seats.
Aug 8, 2016, 9:37 pm
#1860
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ORD [formerly] + HKG
Programs: CX Diamond, AA exExPlat, BAEC exGold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Starriott Titanium, GE
Posts: 2,966
CX may have caught on that DPS is like Hawaii; not many paid pax in premium cabins because it's a leisure destination, boatloads of people with credit cards and bloated mileage balances who want to fly to Bali and be in a premium cabin, and adjusted inventory accordingly.
Back in the day they used to fly a 747 there. Now it's a 773 with less premium seats.
Back in the day they used to fly a 747 there. Now it's a 773 with less premium seats.