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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:12 pm
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What is Basic Economy?
Basic Economy is (generally) the lowest, "no-frills" Main Cabin (Economy) fare on American Airlines and their Atlantic Joint Business partners (British Airways, Iberia, and Finnair). Basic Economy fares on American Airlines book into the As the lowest fare, it has some special restrictions that other Main Cabin fares do not.

What are the Restrictions?
You can read American Airlines' web page summarizing Basic Economy for the exact details, but there are a few points that likely matter most to FlyerTalkers:
  1. Your first checked bag will cost money on a Basic Economy fare*.
  2. Your seat will be automatically assigned when you check in and unchangeable, unless you pay to change your seat. You may pay to reserve a seat any time after booking*.
  3. No elite upgrades to first class, or complimentary access to preferred seats (green on the seat map) or Main Cabin Extra (orange on the seat map)*.
  4. You will board last, in Group 9 for domestic flights or Group 8 for international flights*. On a full flight, this likely means you will have to gate check your carry-on bag (which is free)*.
  5. You will earn 50% EQMs per mile flown and 0.5 EQS per segment. You will earn full RDMs (based on fare flown) and EQDs.
  6. Changes are not permitted (worldwide from 01APR21).
  7. In IRROPS, Basic Economy customers will not be re-accommodated on other airlines, and will have to wait for the next American Airlines flight (or BA/IB/AY for INTL).

* exceptions apply for American Airlines elite-level frequent flyers as noted below.

Despite these restrictions, Basic Economy can be a good value in certain circumstances.

Are the seats or service any different?
Once you are on the airplane, the experience (seats / drinks / snacks) will be identical to regular Main Cabin.

How can I tell if I have a Basic Economy fare?
Your reservation on aa.com may say it. Basic Economy fares on American Airlines flights book into the B booking class, though Basic Economy fares on BA/IB/AY and their AA* codeshares can book into almost any revenue booking class.

I have an AA credit card, what does that get me?
Yes, if you have an American Airlines credit card that comes with preferred boarding or a free checked bag on domestic itineraries, you will receive those benefits. Additionally, if you have a Citi Executive card, you may use the Admirals Club as normal.

I have AA elite status, what does that get me?
You WILL get the following elite benefits when you buy a Basic Economy fare (note this is not an exhaustive list, basically everything not expressly forbidden is allowed):
  1. 1/2/3 checked bag fees waives, depending on status.
  2. Priority check-in / security / boarding.
  3. Lounge access, if applicable.
You WILL NOT receive the following elite benefits on a Basic Economy fare:
  1. No same-day standby or same-day confirmed flight changes, paid or otherwise.
Will I be seated with my child?
As it does today, American’s reservations system will check for families traveling with children 13 and under a few days before the flight, and attempt to seat each child with an adult. This is the same process we follow for Main Cabin customers.
Families with children over 13 will have to pay for seat assignments to be seated with their children.

I am flying on a British Airways, Iberia, or Finnair airplane, is anything different?
If you do not have AA or oneworld elite status, the restrictions are quite similar and you should expect to pay for everything: paid checked bags, paid seat selection, and no changes / cancellations. Depending on available fare classes, you may have an opportunity to earn additional redeemable miles or elite qualifying dollars by booking a BA / IB / AY flight number instead of an AA flight number; check your options and the partner earning charts on AA for each respective airline (British Airways, Iberia, Finnair).

If you have status, buckle up, because it gets technical, though there are some opportunities to cherry pick benefits and save money. This has been already summarized in the counterpart to this thread on the British Airways forum.​​, so we will not reproduce it here. Note the following correspondences between status levels:
  • AA Gold - BA Bronze - oneworld Ruby
  • AA Platinum or Platinum Pro - BA Silver - oneworld Sapphire
  • AA Executive Platinum or Concierge Key - BA Gold - oneworld Emerald
Generally, there seem to be the following opportunities for arbitrage:
  • If you are a Platinum, Platinum Pro, or Executive Platinum elite, you can generally book Iberia or Finnair-operated Basic Economy flights and not notice any baggage or seating restrictions, as long as they were not marketed by BA.
  • If you do not care about your seat assignment, you can book AA-operated flights with an IB or AY flight number and still receive a checked bag if you are Platinum or higher. You may earn more or fewer RDMs, EQMs, and EQDs.
  • If you do not need to check a bag, you can book BA-operated flights with any flight number, and can choose your seat (7 days in advance for Gold, at booking for Platinum and higher, Exit Rows for EXP).
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by sbrower
But it also says that you retain your boarding group. So a Platinum on BE fare will still be group 3 (or 4, or something like that), NOT A GROUP 9. So they will only need to be vigilent on the Group 9 (which can't take any overhead).
As long as GA's can enforce the group order for boarding (which to me is a stretch, particularly with 9(!) groups) then this works. It is not clear to me whether the BP scanners return boarding group information or not, or whether this is only done with GAs looking at BPs.

If the only way to enforce boarding order is by BP examination, then I fear JonNYC's comment about this being a manual process is correct.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by scottc42
The BE bag monitoring can be easily addressed... I can't imagine the BE/No Status/No CC passengers being more than about 15% of the average flight.

1)Let all other passengers board and get settled.
2)Close all overhead bins.
3)Then quickly move on the BE PASSENGERS.
This won't work 100% because of delayed first flight from "regular economy" customers coming in as BE customers board. There are also legal connection flights I have taken where by the time I get to the gate, they are already boarding the last group.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:54 am
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Ironically, I'd almost go out of my way to look for RJ's if I was flying BE.

The baggage experience wouldn't change: my rollaboard doesn't fit anyway, and I can't see them putting out separate bag carts next to the plane for BE. And I'd probably be in a window seat as opposed to the likely middle on a bigger jet.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by pinniped
Ironically, I'd almost go out of my way to look for RJ's if I was flying BE.

The baggage experience wouldn't change: my rollaboard doesn't fit anyway, and I can't see them putting out separate bag carts next to the plane for BE. And I'd probably be in a window seat as opposed to the likely middle on a bigger jet.
Interesting take.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:58 am
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The "no overhead" won't be policed on the plane (closed overheads, separate valet carts, etc), but at boarding time. The GA won't let anybody with a "Group 9" boarding pass get on the jetbridge with two items (or one larger than a personal item).

Which is why it's simple to enforce the "doesn't apply to elites and credit cards" exception. Boarding passes for any of those passengers don't have Group 9, they have their early boarding designation (EXP/Plat/Gold/Priority)
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by dtremit
Notable, and I think different from what UA and DL have announced:



Emphasis mine. In other words, prices will be the same, but you'll get less for them.
Actually, I think the fares will be lower. In looking at the UA and DL fares they seem to match the fares of carriers like Spirit, Frontier, and Allegiant, which offer similar add on fees. However, I am curious about why AA isn't going to sell overhead space. Possibly they want there to be room for the regular fare people? The only effect on me would be the seat assignments, and I value those. I would be ok with a flight of about an hour in a middle seat.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:02 am
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My takeaway from this (especially Group 9 carry-on policing, and manual intervention for elites, if required) is that it adds up to more work for the GAs, which certainly won't make them happy when they're already stressed about closing the door on time. And stressed/overworked GAs make for very unhappy customers...
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:07 am
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Since they are maintaining priority boarding, free checked bag, and overhead storage for folks with even low tier credit cards it may encourage take up of the credit cards for occasional flyers. On routes with BE the card pays for itself with two or three roundtrips.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by JonNYC
I cover it here:
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/821538827084988416

(not all members of all groups included therein):


Then 5,6,7,8,9
No idea how they'll be called.
What an absolute Cluster F***

Looks like I'll be able to have 2 pre departure drinks before they shut the door....
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:09 am
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It is probably safe to assume that any elite seating benefits (elite blocked, Preferred, discounted/free MCE) will not apply to these tickets, right? I did not see anything on the AA page regarding this.

As a GLD flying popular routes, upgrades are a rarity to begin with so if I can fly AA, earn some EQM/RDM and pay LCC prices, I will probably buy these fares, especially if any seating benefits are extended.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:13 am
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Anyone have a feel if a stuffed backpack will have issues with the new sizer.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:13 am
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OK, I'll take a different approach. As an AA Elite, I have no problem with this. I believe it will primarily appeal to those flyers who fly only once or twice a year. Therefore, they will be required to check their luggage which will be beneficial not only during boarding of the aircraft but also while going through security with fewer bags belonging to those passengers who are the least experienced in what is/is not allowed through security.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by sdix
What an absolute Cluster F***

Looks like I'll be able to have 2 pre departure drinks before they shut the door....
But it's 50/50 if you even get a PDB.

I think AA seriously needs to rework their boarding game. It's always a complete mess sans small regional airports. The big problem is just one divider, and having people ball up around the lines. It's frustrating, to say the least.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by BThumme
...I think AA seriously needs to rework their boarding game.
That's exactly and precisely what they are doing here.

And, complaints about the current process via social media-- Twitter singled out as the big one-- were a big driver here.
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Old Jan 18, 2017, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by jordyn
Where's that latter quote from? I don't see it elsewhere in the thread. Can they make it return an error for all the other groups trying to board too early too? :-)
Yes please
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I recently boarded in first and some man who looked old enough to know better tries to board 1 or 2 ahead of me and the GA says "Sir you're in Group 3 (or whatever group it was called he was in), please step aside and wait for your group to be called for boarding" but I RARELY see that enforced
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