Jan 4, 2017, 9:24 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
HELP DESK: Lounge Access, Access Rules. Will I Have Lounge Access? (2017)
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.
Please read this wiki carefully; some fine nuances exist.
PLEASE DO NOT ALTER THE CONTENT OF THIS MODERATOR NOTE
The Lounge Access Help Desk
To assist members with questions about Lounge Access Rules that they have not been able to answer on their own using the above resources, the AA Moderator team has decided to institute this thread, the third in a series of "Help Desk" threads. N.B.: If you have questions about physical access to a specific lounge (e.g., airside vs. landside, different terminal, etc.), please search for and post to the appropriate specific thread for that lounge.
New threads on this topic will be merged into this one and bumped by the moderators as necessary. As such, we do not expect that this thread will develop into a searchable database, but that it will nonetheless provide a valuable resource to members. As well, we may shed / pare down posts from time to time to a trailing thread or similar device.
Our goal is to provide a place where members can feel welcome to post such questions and expect helpful, accurate responses. In this way, we hope to accommodate the needs and desires of both new and veteran members - those who aren't sure they are interpreting the available resources correctly can ask for help without fear of snarky-appearing responses; those who do not wish to participate in such threads are invited and, indeed, encouraged, to ignore this thread.
Please be forewarned: This thread will be subject to heavy moderation. Posts that are incorrect will be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST answers unless you are 100% sure your answer is complete and correct. Posts that are unhelpful or off-topic will also be subject to deletion without notice - DO NOT POST unless you can be friendly, helpful, concise, and salient.
Finally, a few guidelines for members posting queries to this thread:
- Please DO make an effort to review the listed resources before posting here.
- Please DO try to give as much information as possible, including your entire itinerary, with carrier for each segment and codeshares and stopovers clearly designated, your class of service and fare class purchased, whether or not you have Admirals Club or Qantas Club membership, a Citi AAdvantage Executive card (which includes full Admirals Club membership), and the number of guests and your family relationship with them, if any.
- Please DO understand it could take some time for answers (especially on holidays and weekends.)
- Please DO thank helpful members volunteering to reply to your questions.
Also see the future changes in lounges and access: Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge Changes, Renovations & Additions
Sincerely,
The American Airlines | AAdvantage forum Moderator Team
(Help Desk established by dstan)
=================end mod note===================
oneworld Lounge Access
Wizard by kduarte.
Help Desk: Lounge Access Rules / Will I Have Lounge Access?
Lounge Access can be obtained in a number of ways during travel on AA and its oneworld partner airlines. These include purchasing an Admirals Club one day pass, or via Citi AAdvantage Executive MasterCard (including, as of Dec 2015, authorized card users), reciprocity agreements with other airlines, traveling on certain transcon flights in F or J, or traveling internationally with Platinum (oneworld Sapphire) or Executive Platinum (oneworld Emerald) status or in F or J classes of service - except if flying solely within North America inc,Using destinations other than MEX or the Caribbean. The last is often the greatest source of confusion, despite lounge access rules being described clearly on aa.com. Threads about these are linked to in the American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD thread.
Admirals Club members paid or Executive cardholder members) are entitled guests as follows:
Up to two guests or household members (spouse, domestic partner and/or children under the age of 18) may accompany the member.
For AA status-based access (PLT, PlatPro or EXP),* passengers must: (1) be traveling on an international itinerary (Europe, Asia, Central and South America, and Mexico City, excluding the Caribbean and other destinations in North America (other than on certain three class transcontinental flights) including other destinations in Mexico, and (2) have an onward flight on a oneworld airline marketed and operated flight on the same day. PLT and PPRO members are eligible for access to all oneworld Business Class lounges, now including Flagship Lounges, including Admirals Clubs; EXP members are also eligible for access to all oneworld First Class lounges, including Flagship Lounges.
Lounges operated by third parties or premium lunges operating outside of oneworld rules (e.g. BA Concorde Room, Qatar Al Safwa or Al Mourjan lounges) may be excluded, and all may may refuse admittance if they claim they are crowded. There are other exceptions.
*Non-AA oneworld Sapphire and Emerald elites are not subject to rule #1 above.
Emerald / EP on CX JFK-YVR are not subject to AA limitations and are issued Flagship Lounge invitations for use at JFK.
Another confusing rule relates to transcontinental access. From member FriendlySkies:
Traveling on a Non-Stop Transcontinental* Flight? http://www.aa.com/i18n/utility/trans-con-access.jsp
More changes:
If you are traveling in the First or Business class cabin (on flights sold as three classes) in one of the following non-stop markets, we welcome you to visit the lounge as indicated below.
More changes:
If you are traveling in the First or Business class cabin (on flights sold as three classes) in one of the following non-stop markets, we welcome you to visit the lounge as indicated below.
The following exceptions apply:
First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. one world lounge access page - link
First and Business Class customers who do not hold Emerald or Sapphire tier status are not eligible to access American Airlines lounges when travelling on solely domestic flights within the U.S. or between the U.S. and Canada, Mexico [except Mexico City], the Bahamas, Bermuda and the Caribbean; customers travelling in First or Business class on U.S. transcontinental flights between JFK-LAX, JFK-SFO and MIA-LAX (and vice-versa) are eligible for lounge access. one world lounge access page - link
In the Flagship Dining subsection, they state:
Beginning in early 2017, the Flagship Dining experience will be available in select cities with 3-class service:
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)
First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining in 2017
● Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW)
● New York (JFK)
● Miami (MIA)
● Los Angeles (LAX)
First Class customers on American’s 3-class international and transcontinental flights will have exclusive access to Flagship Dining in 2017
Flagship Lounges (JFK, LAX, LHR and ORD) offer extended beverages and upscale snack services as well. See below for link.
NOTE: Some Lounges and Clubs are undergoing refurbishment.
Citi Prestige MasterCard holder Admirals Club access ended July 23, 2017.
American Express Platinum cardholder Admirals Club access ended 21 March 2014.
NOTE: It has been verified more airports are allowing multiple terminal access on one's day of departure. LAX has been one since mid-2014.
Admirals Club access is granted the day of flight for statusholders flyingone world and those flying F or J, or the following day at the first port of arrival if flying overnight and arriving by 0600.
Airports requiring Lounge users have a same day departure boarding pass include BOG, CCS, CDG, GIG, GRU, LHR, MEX, NRT, SCL, YYZ.
N.B. Qantas Lounges and Clubs require Smart Casual (sic) dress as of May 2015; those not meeting the standard may be turned away. They also require AAdvantage members be traveling on a departing AA marketed flight.
Please see the following resources for full details on Lounge Access Rules: (and see below)
. . . ● AA.com: Lounge Access Rules
. . . ● AA.com: American Airlines Flagship Lounge Access Rules
Beginning later in 2017: https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...ge-updates.jsp opens Flagship access to many more pax.
. . . ● AA.com: Reimaging our lounges
. . . ● AA.com: Admirals Club Membership Guide in a downloadable PDF format.
. . . ● oneworld.com: Lounge Access Rules and Search Tool
. . . ● Wiki: Lounges
. . . ● FT: American Airlines LOUNGE DASHBOARD
For various threads on membership, access by status, transcon service, class of service, Flagship lounge access, lounges directory with links to specific lounge threads, Club member access to partner lounges, recipripocity agreements, etc.
. . . ● Last year's thread:HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2016)
ARCHIVE: HELP DESK: Will I Have Lounge Access? Access, Rules (2017)
Dec 19, 2017, 10:01 am
#781
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: SFO, formerly BOS
Programs: AS Gold 75K and Delta PM, former AA EXP
Posts: 68
Dec 22, 2017, 4:58 pm
#782
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 369
I’ll be traveling HND/LAX in flagship business and have another AA LAX/SFO flight in coach on separate reservations. I understand that I get access to the oneworld business lounge on a layover from an international flight in business, but does that still apply to flights on separate reservations?
Dec 22, 2017, 5:04 pm
#783
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
I’ll be traveling HND/LAX in flagship business and have another AA LAX/SFO flight in coach on separate reservations. I understand that I get access to the oneworld business lounge on a layover from an international flight in business, but does that still apply to flights on separate reservations?
If you like champagne, you'll also have access to the newly opened AA Flagship Lounge in LAX. You can also try both, they are about 5 minutes or so apart.
Dec 22, 2017, 5:19 pm
#784
Join Date: May 2017
Location: San Francisco
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 369
I was able to try it out on the outbound flight but assumed I wouldn’t have access on the return layover. Huh.
Dec 25, 2017, 3:42 pm
#785
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: SLC/HEL/Anywhere with a Beach
Programs: Marriott Ambassador; AA EXP 3MM; AS MVP, Hilton Gold, CH-47/UH-60/C-23/C-130 VET
Posts: 5,234
So if I'm an EXP flying J from JFK/LAX, I know I get Flagship Lounge access. Do I also get access to the Qantas F lounge if I'm only flying domestic?
Dec 26, 2017, 1:49 pm
#786
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: STL
Programs: Bonvoy Titanium, UA Silver, AA Gold
Posts: 144
I am flying GIG (Rio de Janiero) -> MIA and arrive at 4:30AM.
Business Class
No Status
I have a connecting flight to DFW at 11:00AM that same day.
First Class
No Status
Will I be able to access the Admirals Club / Flagship Lounge in MIA that day?
Business Class
No Status
I have a connecting flight to DFW at 11:00AM that same day.
First Class
No Status
Will I be able to access the Admirals Club / Flagship Lounge in MIA that day?
Dec 26, 2017, 1:57 pm
#787
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
Yep, due to Int'l Business Class ticket and same day connection to another OW flight.
Dec 26, 2017, 2:04 pm
#788
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
When flying on a 3 class transcon as an AA EXP, as in your case, you'll only have access to the OW Business Lounge or the AA FS Lounge due to your J ticket If you were flying F, then you'd have access to the QF F Lounge.
Dec 26, 2017, 3:54 pm
#789
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 732
Lounge access on a mix business / economy route?
My friend is traveling on a rather crazy route.
Ticket one: ORD-LHR on AA
Ticket two: LHR-DXB-MEL-AKL-ZQN on QF in economy
On the AA flight he has paid for an upgrade to business. That flight arrives at 08:35 tomorrow. Does this mean he would get QF lounge access when departing London 3 hours later? Additionally, would get get QF (EK) lounge access in DXB since this is still the same day?
Ticket one: ORD-LHR on AA
Ticket two: LHR-DXB-MEL-AKL-ZQN on QF in economy
On the AA flight he has paid for an upgrade to business. That flight arrives at 08:35 tomorrow. Does this mean he would get QF lounge access when departing London 3 hours later? Additionally, would get get QF (EK) lounge access in DXB since this is still the same day?
Dec 26, 2017, 5:22 pm
#790
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Austin
Programs: AA EXP +2MM- LT PLT! HH Diamond
Posts: 6,087
My friend is traveling on a rather crazy route.
Ticket one: ORD-LHR on AA
Ticket two: LHR-DXB-MEL-AKL-ZQN on QF in economy
On the AA flight he has paid for an upgrade to business. That flight arrives at 08:35 tomorrow. Does this mean he would get QF lounge access when departing London 3 hours later? Additionally, would get get QF (EK) lounge access in DXB since this is still the same day?
Ticket one: ORD-LHR on AA
Ticket two: LHR-DXB-MEL-AKL-ZQN on QF in economy
On the AA flight he has paid for an upgrade to business. That flight arrives at 08:35 tomorrow. Does this mean he would get QF lounge access when departing London 3 hours later? Additionally, would get get QF (EK) lounge access in DXB since this is still the same day?
Dec 26, 2017, 5:42 pm
#791
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Kyiv, Ukraine
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, TK Elite, HHonors Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 7,691
Since he's got an Int'l long haul business class ticket, he'll have access to the AA ORD Flagship Lounge, any of the business lounges at LHR in the terminal he is departing from to DXB. Since the EK lounge is not part of OW, doubtful he'd get access there flying economy. He might have access in MEL, but I think that time wise it might be too far removed from the Int'l business segment.
Dec 26, 2017, 6:02 pm
#792
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
3 hour connection on separate tickets at LHR?
Hope he didn't check bags (and would thus have to reclaim and recheck then at LHR), because otherwise that's cutting it pretty close, IMO, even with T3 to T3.
Hope he didn't check bags (and would thus have to reclaim and recheck then at LHR), because otherwise that's cutting it pretty close, IMO, even with T3 to T3.
Dec 26, 2017, 6:50 pm
#793
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Boston, USA
Programs: AA EXP, TK Elite, HH Gold, SPG/Marriott Gold
Posts: 939
him access based on his inbound business class ticket in their lounge, correct ? AA lounge is also in T-3
where his Qantas flight departs from...
Dec 26, 2017, 7:59 pm
#794
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
See this thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...es-2016-a.html
Dec 26, 2017, 10:52 pm
#795
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: KHOU/KIAH
Programs: AA EXP | Marriott Bonvoy Titanium| Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 11,247
For Lounge Access: AUA - Carribean or South America? (to merge)
Is Aruba/AUA considered Carribean or South America with regards to Admirals Club access?
Will be traveling in F/J on AA and am EXP - will I have access to the Admirals Club?
Will be traveling in F/J on AA and am EXP - will I have access to the Admirals Club?
