Nov 8, 2016, 2:59 pm
Last edit by: BobbySteel
Elite Qualifying Dollar Offset for
American Airlines AAdvantage Barclaycard Aviator cardholders through 2018.
American Airlines AAdvantage Barclaycard Aviator cardholders through 2018.
IMPORTANT NOTE Aviator Red won’t earn any EQD in 2019, Aviator Silver will only earn $3,000 EQD for a $50,000 spend as of 2019, according to Gary Leff, One Mile at a Time. If you hit the $50,000 spend in Dec it will be credited in January but credited towards the prior year, so it can push you over the line after Dec has ended.
See this FT thread for details.
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...fying-dollars/[/QUOTE]
That article says, in part
For 2019 the benefit is being eliminated entirely except for Aviator Silver cardholders who will 3000 elite qualifying dollars after $50,000 spend (instead of earning 6000).
Anyone who signed up for an Aviator Red Mastercard, or upgraded to an Aviator Silver, between January 1 and October 31, 2018 will keep the pre-existing elite qualifying dollars benefit for 2019, and their benefit will change January 1, 2020.
However anyone that paid the annual fee on a card in, say, June in expectation of using the benefit in 2019 is out of luck with the benefit, and out of luck with the fee.
Anyone who signed up for an Aviator Red Mastercard, or upgraded to an Aviator Silver, between January 1 and October 31, 2018 will keep the pre-existing elite qualifying dollars benefit for 2019, and their benefit will change January 1, 2020.
However anyone that paid the annual fee on a card in, say, June in expectation of using the benefit in 2019 is out of luck with the benefit, and out of luck with the fee.
You can apply for American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red MasterCard® at the airport, in flight or at https://home.barclaycardus.com.
If you've been a holder of a Red card prior to 2017, or as a new applicant have had the Red card 90 days, you may apply for the American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Silver World Elite MasterCard®.
From aa.com (link) "Reach elite status faster
Only Silver cards now qualify to earn EQD.
- AAdvantage Aviator Silver MasterCard accounts can earn up to $3,000 EQDs by spending $50,000 on qualifying net purchases each calendar year.
From Barclaycard Aviator Silver (link to T&C PDF)
Link to American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red MasterCard® Reward Rules T&C (Feb 2017)
Link to American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Silver World Elite MasterCard® Reward Rules T&C (Feb 2017)
How can I sign up for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® offered by Barclaycard US?
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
EQ Dollar / EQD offset via Barclaycard Aviator Cards thru 2018 (master thread)
Nov 7, 2016, 2:43 pm
#91
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
Well the problem is, there choose the card that not many people have. It's also impossible to get as of now anyway. I have the red aviator from the good old days, probably never gonna closer that card. But even i think that not including any of the Citi cards was a bad move.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:43 pm
#92
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DCA
Programs: UA LT 1K, AA EXP, Bonvoy LT Titan, Avis PC, Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,658
Yes this would be fine. At least those who do not have the card would not be penalized on upgrades.
AA wants to let Barclays cardholders spend only $6500 for EXP if they spend $50k on the card? Fine. But their upgrade priority should be lower than those who actually spend $12000 on AA flights without having a Barclays card.
AA wants to let Barclays cardholders spend only $6500 for EXP if they spend $50k on the card? Fine. But their upgrade priority should be lower than those who actually spend $12000 on AA flights without having a Barclays card.
DL and UA (except 1k) give status (with 25K spend) without any spend requirement.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:44 pm
#93
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 44,597
Yes this would be fine. At least those who do not have the card would not be penalized on upgrades.
AA wants to let Barclays cardholders spend only $6500 for EXP if they spend $50k on the card? Fine. But their upgrade priority should be lower than those who actually spend $12000 on AA flights without having a Barclays card.
AA wants to let Barclays cardholders spend only $6500 for EXP if they spend $50k on the card? Fine. But their upgrade priority should be lower than those who actually spend $12000 on AA flights without having a Barclays card.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:44 pm
#94
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FIND ME ON TWITTER FOR THE LATEST
Posts: 27,730
My belief is that this involves formalization (and change) of that process in recognition of this now being an official elite tier.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:56 pm
#95
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: OKC
Programs: IHG Spire, National Exec, AA Plat
Posts: 2,274
Anyone know of any rumors about this? It seems like it would make sense, and I may swap my red card for it and dump the exec card in the meantime while I figure out what to do. Longer term, I'm probably going to look at a club with priority pass so that I can be a free agent since airlines (especially AA) think loyalty is a one-way street.
Nov 7, 2016, 3:25 pm
#97
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA EXP, AA LT Gold, SPG Plat 75
Posts: 890
Whatever the current Plat perks are, you will continue to get, though that is worth a lot less now than it did 2 years ago.
Nov 7, 2016, 3:32 pm
#98
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,282
Hi,
This is really dissapointing news for us non-US based members that has zero possibility to add to the EQD since we are not able to get these CC.
Suggestions to all non-US based members/non-eligible members for these cards: write and complain to AAdvantage.
They have made the program a big disadvantage for us non-US based members.
Cheers!
This is really dissapointing news for us non-US based members that has zero possibility to add to the EQD since we are not able to get these CC.
Suggestions to all non-US based members/non-eligible members for these cards: write and complain to AAdvantage.
They have made the program a big disadvantage for us non-US based members.
Cheers!
Nov 7, 2016, 3:34 pm
#99
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Everywhere
Programs: AA EXP - 3.7MM, Bonv LIFETIME Titan, HH Dmd, Hyatt Glob., Priority Clb Dmd, Ntnl Exec El., Sixt PLT
Posts: 1,680
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What's complicated is now upgrade priority is based on your status, how much you spend, and also how much you also spend on your AA credit card--if you have the 'right' AA credit card.
And at the moment, you cannot actually "apply for and use that card" since Barclays is not accepting applications for it. So no, not simple at all.
I have paid $450 per year for the past 5 years for the Citi Executive AA card, which has always been the most expensive co-branded AA card. On this card, I have spent around $400k on in the past 5 years. Both the annual fee and also the spend has benefited AA. And now, AA turns around and makes the decision to exclude its most premium cardholders, myself included, from their new credit card 'benefit'.
So aside from you in this thread, the consensus is that AA messed up. Plain and simple.
What's complicated is now upgrade priority is based on your status, how much you spend, and also how much you also spend on your AA credit card--if you have the 'right' AA credit card.
And at the moment, you cannot actually "apply for and use that card" since Barclays is not accepting applications for it. So no, not simple at all.
I have paid $450 per year for the past 5 years for the Citi Executive AA card, which has always been the most expensive co-branded AA card. On this card, I have spent around $400k on in the past 5 years. Both the annual fee and also the spend has benefited AA. And now, AA turns around and makes the decision to exclude its most premium cardholders, myself included, from their new credit card 'benefit'.
So aside from you in this thread, the consensus is that AA messed up. Plain and simple.
Back to CC EQD "fast track": Perhaps, some marketing genius from AA thought that Barclay could offer EQD for spending while City would have EQM and Admirals Club membership.
Any rumors about Citi plans to offer Visa Infinite sometime in the future?
Nov 7, 2016, 3:40 pm
#101
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: TX
Programs: AA: EXP MR: Ti
Posts: 495
Anyone know of any rumors about this? It seems like it would make sense, and I may swap my red card for it and dump the exec card in the meantime while I figure out what to do. Longer term, I'm probably going to look at a club with priority pass so that I can be a free agent since airlines (especially AA) think loyalty is a one-way street.
A lot of the information that we first got over the summer is starting to come into focus. When we heard there would be 2 credit cards, we got the following info:
- Barclays cards would be available in the airport terminal and on flights
- Citi cards would be available inside the club and online
Citi appears to have aligned themselves with the club, using that as their main cardholder draw. Barclays appears to be aligned with the EQD, which is going to be their draw. They're trying to keep both happy it seems.
Nov 7, 2016, 3:43 pm
#102
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Dallas, TX
Programs: WN A-List Pref, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 460
In the end, I think neither will be happy, since I expect consumers to start avoiding both cards in general for cards with far better earning options and benefits.
Nov 7, 2016, 3:48 pm
#103
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: TX
Programs: AA: EXP MR: Ti
Posts: 495
Nov 7, 2016, 3:50 pm
#104
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Executive Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,662
I have the Citi Exec card for two reasons. I like Admirals Club access and I like 10K EQM for spending $40K.
Now what? To maintain EXP, I need $12K in EQD. I will get about $8K-$9K of that from ticket purchases. It would be nice to get another $3K EQD from spending $25K on the new card.
If I add the Barclays card that means spending $65K which is hefty out of my pocket. But if I am doing that much flying, I need the Club.
Oh, what to do, what to do!
(Not really looking for an answer ... just kvetching a bit.)
I guess these are definitely FWP (First World Problems)!!
Now what? To maintain EXP, I need $12K in EQD. I will get about $8K-$9K of that from ticket purchases. It would be nice to get another $3K EQD from spending $25K on the new card.
If I add the Barclays card that means spending $65K which is hefty out of my pocket. But if I am doing that much flying, I need the Club.
Oh, what to do, what to do!
(Not really looking for an answer ... just kvetching a bit.)
I guess these are definitely FWP (First World Problems)!!