Nov 8, 2016, 2:59 pm
Last edit by: BobbySteel
Elite Qualifying Dollar Offset for
American Airlines AAdvantage Barclaycard Aviator cardholders through 2018.
American Airlines AAdvantage Barclaycard Aviator cardholders through 2018.
IMPORTANT NOTE Aviator Red won’t earn any EQD in 2019, Aviator Silver will only earn $3,000 EQD for a $50,000 spend as of 2019, according to Gary Leff, One Mile at a Time. If you hit the $50,000 spend in Dec it will be credited in January but credited towards the prior year, so it can push you over the line after Dec has ended.
See this FT thread for details.
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...fying-dollars/[/QUOTE]
That article says, in part
For 2019 the benefit is being eliminated entirely except for Aviator Silver cardholders who will 3000 elite qualifying dollars after $50,000 spend (instead of earning 6000).
Anyone who signed up for an Aviator Red Mastercard, or upgraded to an Aviator Silver, between January 1 and October 31, 2018 will keep the pre-existing elite qualifying dollars benefit for 2019, and their benefit will change January 1, 2020.
However anyone that paid the annual fee on a card in, say, June in expectation of using the benefit in 2019 is out of luck with the benefit, and out of luck with the fee.
Anyone who signed up for an Aviator Red Mastercard, or upgraded to an Aviator Silver, between January 1 and October 31, 2018 will keep the pre-existing elite qualifying dollars benefit for 2019, and their benefit will change January 1, 2020.
However anyone that paid the annual fee on a card in, say, June in expectation of using the benefit in 2019 is out of luck with the benefit, and out of luck with the fee.
You can apply for American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red MasterCard® at the airport, in flight or at https://home.barclaycardus.com.
If you've been a holder of a Red card prior to 2017, or as a new applicant have had the Red card 90 days, you may apply for the American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Silver World Elite MasterCard®.
From aa.com (link) "Reach elite status faster
Only Silver cards now qualify to earn EQD.
- AAdvantage Aviator Silver MasterCard accounts can earn up to $3,000 EQDs by spending $50,000 on qualifying net purchases each calendar year.
From Barclaycard Aviator Silver (link to T&C PDF)
Link to American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Red MasterCard® Reward Rules T&C (Feb 2017)
Link to American Airlines® AAdvantage® Aviator™ Silver World Elite MasterCard® Reward Rules T&C (Feb 2017)
How can I sign up for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® offered by Barclaycard US?
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
EQ Dollar / EQD offset via Barclaycard Aviator Cards thru 2018 (master thread)
Nov 7, 2016, 2:09 pm
#77
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For the CK aspect of this change, there's a couple of items that I think I don't see in the blogs:
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:11 pm
#78
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: LAX
Programs: AA EP, MUCCI, Proudly BA Blue,.
Posts: 888
I don't see anything on the AA page about the Aviator Card earning EQM's - only EQD's.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:13 pm
#79
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: TX
Programs: AA: EXP MR: Ti
Posts: 495
For the CK aspect of this change, there's a couple of items that I think I don't see in the blogs:
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:21 pm
#80
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: TX
Programs: AA: EXP MR: Ti
Posts: 495
BENEFITS
- Free checked bag - Your first eligible checked bag is free for you and up to 8 traveling companions on your reservation, when traveling on domestic flights operated by American Airlines.
- Boarding privileges - You and up to 8 people traveling with you can board with Group 1 on domestic American Airlines flights.
- $100 Global Entry application fee credit - Pay for the $100 Global Entry application fee with your card and you’ll automatically receive a $100 statement credit 2-3 weeks after your transaction. Visit globalentry.gov for complete eligibility requirements.
- 25% off in-flight purchases - You'll save 25% on in-flight food, beverages and headset purchases on American Airlines operated flights.
- No foreign transaction fees - You won't pay any foreign transaction fees while traveling abroad.
REWARDS
- Triple miles Earn 3 miles for every $1 you spend when you use your card on eligible American Airlines purchases
- Double miles Earn 2 miles for every $1 you spend on select hotel and car rentals
- Miles on everyday purchases Earn 1 AAdvantage mile for every $1 you spend on every other purchase
- Elite-qualifying miles Get 5,000 elite-qualifying miles for every $20,000 you spend annually (up to 10,000 miles each year)
- Companion certificate Earn a companion certificate good for up to 2 guests at $99 each, issued annually after your account anniversary when you spend $30,000 or more in purchases (taxes and fees apply)
- Unlimited miles There is no limit to the number of miles you can earn
- Chip enabled Chip cards offer a more secure, convenient way to make purchases in the U.S. and abroad
Nov 7, 2016, 2:26 pm
#82
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PHX
Posts: 323
Based on the following FAQ's from AA, it doesn't seem like that Barclays will be offering a direct application for the Silver card for new accounts:
How can I sign up for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® offered by Barclaycard US?
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
How can I sign up for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® offered by Barclaycard US?
Starting in January 2017 customers will be able to apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Red MasterCard® on their next trip either in the airport or during their flight by asking their flight attendant for an application.
How can I apply for the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®?
Current AAdvantage® AviatorTM MasterCard® cardmembers can contact Barclaycard US customer service to inquire about upgrading to the AAdvantage® AviatorTM Silver MasterCard®.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:27 pm
#83
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: DFW, DAL
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They don't want to be like southwest, but it would make sense to have a system where people form two lines like southwest. One for exp, the next for plat pro. After exp boards you load that line with plats, after plat pro boards you load it with golds repeat until you get to the last passenger.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:33 pm
#84
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA EXP, AA LT Gold, SPG Plat 75
Posts: 890
Some people were wanting an EQD reduction for credit card spending
AA is offering an EQD reduction for spend on certain cards
The amount is $3k for $25k spend and another $3k at $50k spend
How is this complicated? As far as messing it up , it seems to provide that which a number of people wished for
That it is a card that some do not have currently have, hardly complicates or messes it up.
If wanted, people can apply for and use that card - seems simple enough
AA is offering an EQD reduction for spend on certain cards
The amount is $3k for $25k spend and another $3k at $50k spend
How is this complicated? As far as messing it up , it seems to provide that which a number of people wished for
That it is a card that some do not have currently have, hardly complicates or messes it up.
If wanted, people can apply for and use that card - seems simple enough
What's complicated is now upgrade priority is based on your status, how much you spend, and also how much you also spend on your AA credit card--if you have the 'right' AA credit card.
And at the moment, you cannot actually "apply for and use that card" since Barclays is not accepting applications for it. So no, not simple at all.
I have paid $450 per year for the past 5 years for the Citi Executive AA card, which has always been the most expensive co-branded AA card. On this card, I have spent around $400k on in the past 5 years. Both the annual fee and also the spend has benefited AA. And now, AA turns around and makes the decision to exclude its most premium cardholders, myself included, from their new credit card 'benefit'.
So aside from you in this thread, the consensus is that AA messed up. Plain and simple.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:37 pm
#85
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It sounds like you would be happy if a EQD allowance was being offered based on a card that you have rather than one that you do not
If it had been applied to the Citi card, it would be a disadvantage to those with Barclays cards
EQDs do not start until 2017 and it seems that in 2017 it will be possible to apply for the card
If I have misunderstood and it is a EQD allowance in concept that people are against, then I have made a mistake in my inferrence
Rather than being a way of boosting EQDs to improve on upgrade chances, I had read that most were wanting credit card EQDs to avoid having to spend so much to attain status
If it had been applied to the Citi card, it would be a disadvantage to those with Barclays cards
EQDs do not start until 2017 and it seems that in 2017 it will be possible to apply for the card
If I have misunderstood and it is a EQD allowance in concept that people are against, then I have made a mistake in my inferrence
Rather than being a way of boosting EQDs to improve on upgrade chances, I had read that most were wanting credit card EQDs to avoid having to spend so much to attain status
Nov 7, 2016, 2:40 pm
#87
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BKK/So Cal
Programs: AA ExecPlat
Posts: 30
I think we were expecting that so I weaned all my spend off the card over the last few months. Called today and cancelled - the renewal fee was due on this months bill so I keep that $95. Gave them the run down when they wanted to know why I was leaving.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:41 pm
#88
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: AA EXP, AA LT Gold, SPG Plat 75
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It sounds like you would be happy if a EQD reduction was being offered based on a card that you have rather than one that you do not
If it had been applied to the Citi card, it would be a disadvantage to those with Barclays cards
EQDs do not start until 2017 and it seems that in 2017 it will be possible to apply for the card
If it had been applied to the Citi card, it would be a disadvantage to those with Barclays cards
EQDs do not start until 2017 and it seems that in 2017 it will be possible to apply for the card
AA wants to let Barclays cardholders spend only $6500 for EXP if they spend $50k on the card? Fine. But their upgrade priority should be lower than those who actually spend $12000 on AA flights without having a Barclays card.
Edit: Misread your comment. There are two issues here:
1) AA giving a giant middle finger to their most expensive card holders.
2) Upgrade priority being based on EQDs when only some cardholders can actually earn EQDs through credit card spend. An EQD waiver would solve this issue.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:41 pm
#89
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: DCA
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For the CK aspect of this change, there's a couple of items that I think I don't see in the blogs:
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
-early boarding,
- next flight guarantee
On this first one, the rumor phase had CK's being -officially- boarded in front of EPs (as opposed to how it's just done now on a as-available basis,) but, again, the rumor had it sort of as a boarding group-- not that that makes much sense to me personally, but wondering if this is any kind of way of indicting that.
As far as "next flight guarantee"-- I've personally not seen that verbiage before.
Nov 7, 2016, 2:42 pm
#90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: USA
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 201
To those of you able to do so, I highly recommend the free agent path. I ditched my executive card months ago and have already spent almost $20,000 on United and Lufthansa flights over the past 6 months (due to better pricing and schedules). You won't miss AA.