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AA or BA Metal Between LAX-LHR (for Business class)

AA or BA Metal Between LAX-LHR (for Business class)

Old May 26, 16, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by wrp96 View Post
It depends on the plane. AA77W J beats any CW seat by miles. Other AA planes, especially the ones with the NGBC seat, are a completely different story.
Well I have the window rear facing seat. I don't know if that seat is indigenous to a particular type of aircraft BA flies, but it looks like a 77W gets on that route often.
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Old May 26, 16, 9:45 am
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They're both so variable that it's hard to say. My general opinion is that for F I'd take BA over AA 100% of the time.

For J, my preference would be:

AA 77W J > BA CW > all other AA J

With that said, since it seems like you're just buying J class, are you particularly attached to oneworld? If not, I'd probably choose NZ on this particular route if the times work for you.
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Old May 26, 16, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by cmd320 View Post
With that said, since it seems like you're just buying J class, are you particularly attached to oneworld? If not, I'd probably choose NZ on this particular route if the times work for you.
Award ticket, saver business. Only BA was available.
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Old May 26, 16, 9:51 am
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Well, it depends!

**Solo traveler vs couple

For a solo traveler, I'd definitely give the edge to AA 77W because of the seat.
The seat is where you will spend most of your travel time.
(Airport terminals and ease of connection bare minimum importance in this AA vs BA comparison, IMO)

For a couple, I am not so sure. The middle seats in the lower deck of BA380 provide great intimacy and allows a couple share the experience.

AA 77W seats is bad for couples to interact during the flight, none pair of seats gives the perfect solution (Yes, I know some of you are not joined by the hip with your SO)

**Price
-I wouldn't pay a premium to fly AA77W over BA380.
-If the ticket is with miles, well, then you won't have much choice due to availability, but with AA you avoid a hefty surcharge fee.
-If it is paid J, I would see if there is something else better with other airline. Maybe Swiss? Lufthansa A 380? Swiss sometimes is $1000 less than AA/BA. That's a no brainer for me.
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Old May 26, 16, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
Award ticket, saver business. Only BA was available.
I think he was talking about OP.

And BA F> AA F>AA 77W J> BA J= AA lie flat Js> any angle flat Js
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Old May 26, 16, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by brp View Post
That part is optional. You get to choose when you go to the gate and into the pen. If one knows the drill, one can wait until later.
What's the drill? How long can one wait?

Maybe stupid questions but in a few weeks I'm flying LHR-JFK with AA for the first time (in J, if that's of any relevance).
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Old May 26, 16, 12:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Flip42 View Post
What's the drill? How long can one wait?

Maybe stupid questions but in a few weeks I'm flying LHR-JFK with AA for the first time (in J, if that's of any relevance).
We try to target to get there maybe 35-40 minutes before departure and that usually hits toward the beginning of boarding. Sometimes they board later and we hang, but not often.

Also, we now answer our "security" questions at the gate (and not the little room in Flight Connections) so we need a little more time. Since no one does it there, it adds like a minute, but I allow more.

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Old May 26, 16, 12:15 pm
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Originally Posted by dciolli View Post
Thanks all! We'll stick with AA on the 77W.
Hopefully it stays a 77W
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Old May 26, 16, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by sdix View Post
Hopefully it stays a 77W
I think LAX-LHR would be one of the safer 77W routes.
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Old May 26, 16, 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
Interesting. I'm flying BA CW ATL-LHR in july (AA wasn't available over the pond in saver J of course) and the folks on the BA forum say BA blows AA away in J. Oh well.
The general consensus on the BA forum on this topic (which comes up quite frequently) is pretty much identical to the advice given here on the AA forum. The AA 77W J product trumps the BA J product. If you've read otherwise on the BA forum it would be interesting if you would point me to it.
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Old May 26, 16, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
Interesting. I'm flying BA CW ATL-LHR in july (AA wasn't available over the pond in saver J of course) and the folks on the BA forum say BA blows AA away in J. Oh well.
Really? CW specifically blows away 77W J? I can't imagine anyone other than someone with a bit of a BA chauvinistic or masochistic streak saying that.

I've flown plenty of both, and I'd never, ever imagine how CW in its current guide could be nearly as comfortable as the 77W J product.
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Old May 26, 16, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
I've flown plenty of both, and I'd never, ever imagine how CW in its current guide could be nearly as comfortable as the 77W J product.
From everything I've read over at the BA forum that is the general view there too.
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Old May 26, 16, 12:56 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Really? CW specifically blows away 77W J? I can't imagine anyone other than someone with a bit of a BA chauvinistic or masochistic streak saying that.

I've flown plenty of both, and I'd never, ever imagine how CW in its current guide could be nearly as comfortable as the 77W J product.
You mean the BA <redacted> on the BAEC forum? There are a lot of very entrenched opinions over there.

My take on this (as a loyal BA traveller who now lives in the US and flies a lot with AA) is that I would prefer the AA hard product on the 77W to the BA Club product on their 777. However, if I was flying on a 747 and could get seats on the upper deck then I would probably take that option as I do like the intimacy of the cabin and there are a few seats where you don't have to step over people.

I find the food generally slightly better on AA than BA but the wines tend to be better with BA. Service can be hit and miss with both, but I find that AA tends to be slightly harsher / colder / more perfunctory than BA. You certainly have more chance of multiple PDBs on BA though. I assume that the AA 77W still has in-flight Wi-Fi for the whole journey? That might be something to factor in as well.

One thing that I would emphasise, however, is that whether you're in BA or AA business class you're going to have a much better flight than the majority of the passengers who are down the back. I think a lot of people forget that. Flying in coach / economy is still the norm for the vast majority of passengers and there is a significant difference between coach and business, irrespective of whether you're with AA or BA. Relax, sit back and enjoy the flight would be my advice

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Old May 26, 16, 1:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Geordie405 View Post
You mean the BA <redacted> on the BAEC forum? There are a lot of very entrenched opinions over there.
We're talking specifically here about the AA 77W compared to BA Club World. Would you care to reference a thread in the BA forum where someone actually suggests BA Club World is superior to the AA 77W?

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Old May 26, 16, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by brp View Post
We try to target to get there maybe 35-40 minutes before departure and that usually hits toward the beginning of boarding. Sometimes they board later and we hang, but not often.

Also, we now answer our "security" questions at the gate (and not the little room in Flight Connections) so we need a little more time. Since no one does it there, it adds like a minute, but I allow more.

Cheers.
Thanks a lot.
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