Who among us regularly buys first class seats?
#47
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: MSY
Programs: AA Plat Pro, UA Plat, VS Silver, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,532
My company policy is refundable coach and paid F for "transcontinental" flights (not defined in the contract, but flights blocked over 4:30 have always been approved) and business for international flights. Oddly this means I can fly three class F on JFK-LAX (for example), but am relegated to J for JFK-LHR.
On personal travel - if it's less than $200 more per seat roundtrip, I'll pay for first if traveling with my wife. If it's just me, I won't bother.
On personal travel - if it's less than $200 more per seat roundtrip, I'll pay for first if traveling with my wife. If it's just me, I won't bother.
#48
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Dallas
Programs: AA LTPLT UA1P Hilton Dia Marriott Plat
Posts: 1,188
I would say I am about 50% buying F seats. Depends where I am going and what AA is charging. I just did buy DFW HKG DFW in F it was $6500 RT which I think is reasonable for F. I've been flying Emirates a lot more in J from DFW also.
#50
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 796
My company stopped paying for international business class 2 years ago.
The last 2 years, the only time I bought AA econ was for a trip under 500 miles. The rest are paid J/F that I found in the premium mileage run forum. Not exactly mileage run, but somewhere I want to go for a week or so. Will go back to Plat next year.
The last 2 years, the only time I bought AA econ was for a trip under 500 miles. The rest are paid J/F that I found in the premium mileage run forum. Not exactly mileage run, but somewhere I want to go for a week or so. Will go back to Plat next year.
#51
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: PHL - Go Flyers!
Programs: EMT-P
Posts: 564
I own my small business so I consider travel costs as out of pocket. Was a Southwest flyer for several years but did the US CP challenge and will qualify for EP this year with some MRs.
I've booked 100% in Y this year and been upgraded 100% as well. I feel very lucky compared to others. I have started looking at the cost of F/J vs Y but the delta had been significant.
I'd certainly book in F/J if the price difference was small.
I've booked 100% in Y this year and been upgraded 100% as well. I feel very lucky compared to others. I have started looking at the cost of F/J vs Y but the delta had been significant.
I'd certainly book in F/J if the price difference was small.
#53
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: RDU
Programs: AA LT Gold, DL SM, HY Disc, Marriott LT Gold
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I looked into buying A on an upcoming work trip to Seattle that's about six weeks out:
discount Y on AA: $237
YUP on United: $567
YUP on American: $813
That's just not even close to realistic.
discount Y on AA: $237
YUP on United: $567
YUP on American: $813
That's just not even close to realistic.
#54
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: BWI
Posts: 7,391
This year was around 70% in paid F and 30% in paid Y (mostly upgraded using SWUs). Travel is 100% leisure, but if I get to travel for work, the policy for paid business is 6+ hours and trip must involve a destination outside of North America.
#55
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Austin, TX - AUS
Programs: AA Platinum, Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, Marriott
Posts: 1,628
#56
Formerly known as I_Hate_US_Airways
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Just South Of North
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Only F 2 Class, J 3 Class Config...
First (or in my part of the world Business) on metal that only has 2 classes of service. Long haul, Business in a 3 class configuration.
HOWEVER, I use a dollar limit for long haul travel class of service...
I am willing to spend up to $4,000 per ticket (& since I am always traveling with the wife), I am coming $8,000 out of pocket for tickets. Rarely do we have to spend more than even on ultra long haul tickets. If the amount is more than $8,000, then I will use miles to move up to First on a 3 class aircraft.
HOWEVER, I use a dollar limit for long haul travel class of service...
I am willing to spend up to $4,000 per ticket (& since I am always traveling with the wife), I am coming $8,000 out of pocket for tickets. Rarely do we have to spend more than even on ultra long haul tickets. If the amount is more than $8,000, then I will use miles to move up to First on a 3 class aircraft.
#57
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: BOS
Programs: Marriott LTG, HHonors Diamond, Nat'l Exec
Posts: 3,582
I was lucky with upgrades for many years -- first on NW, then on DL, and finally on US -- but since the mergers and a moderate dropoff in my own travel, I think that good fortune is over.
Work for a small company, and so I'm planning to discuss this with them come my next review. Hoping I can get them to cover longer flights.
Edited to add: my biggest question is, if this is the new reality, is there any point to staying loyal to AA or any other carrier? With upgrades basically off the table, I get pretty much everything else I need as part of the paid F ticket.
#58
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: SNA LAX
Programs: AA PLT
Posts: 116
Depends on the aircraft and destination. Generally speaking, not worth it to me to pay out-of-pocket (albeit on a YUP fare) for an old plane. I make do with MCE. Can be swayed to pay for F it's a long-haul though.
After a recent YUP to Hawaii gone terribly wrong, it's made me re-think things, however. 2016 will be an interesting year.
After a recent YUP to Hawaii gone terribly wrong, it's made me re-think things, however. 2016 will be an interesting year.
#59
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA EXP (2.5MM), Hilton Gold, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,859
Our policy depends on the number of expected flights/year over a certain threshold. I think its 8Hrs. Flew to Sydney a couple years back to do interviews to help fill in for someone who bailed last minute. The recruiter coordinating it was in J since they had 12+ >8hr trips for the year (and also looking for UA's equivalent of AA Concierge Key that year). but I was in Y since it was my only 'anticipated' trip over 8 hours for the year. Decent Qantas A380 in Y on an exit row due to my AA EXP status on the way down but on the return there was one F award seat that opened up 12 hours in advance so I cxl'd company paid return portion and used my own miles to be more comfortable. Well worth it for QF A380 A. From now on if its a voluntary trip for the company and flight is >6 hours, I'm not going unless I'm confirmed in J or better.
#60
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 12
I'm an EXP and I regularly purchase first class tickets. I prefer selecting my first class seat at time of booking. I'm regularly upgraded, however I'm sometimes unhappy with the first row, last row or window seats.
I've been flying 3 times weekly LAX - DFW viewing real estate properties for the Toyota move. First class pricing on American and United connecting in Houston has been under $500 roundtrip for most travel Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb.
I've been flying 3 times weekly LAX - DFW viewing real estate properties for the Toyota move. First class pricing on American and United connecting in Houston has been under $500 roundtrip for most travel Nov-Dec-Jan-Feb.