Who among us regularly buys first class seats?
#16
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Dallas, TX
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I buy F or J 100% of the time. I won't play the silly upgrade game. I use my SWUs on family when I fly them to me or when they fly with me.
#17
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Everywhere you wanna be
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#19
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Programs: AA EXP 1 Million Miles, Hilton Diamond, AMEX Platinum, AA Citi Exec, Hilton Aspire, Bilt
Posts: 179
Who among us regularly buys first class seats?
I almost always buy domestic F and/or intercon J. Within the past 18-24 months AA/LATAM have almost always had $2000-$3000 "I" fares on the EZE-MIA and EZE-JFK routes I frequent so it's a no brainer for me. If a cheap "I" fare isn't available on dates I need to travel I'll buy a coach fare and use a SWU, which are virtually a guaranteed upgrade IME. Domestically I'll pay $1000 +\- $100 for non stop MIA-SAN in F. If it's not during a peak travel time I'll risk buying a coach fare on MIA-EWR as its a short flight and the free EXP upgrades always clear; during peak times (EWR-MIA) after xmas I'll just buy the discount F ticket for $450 or so. All my travel is out of pocket.
#20
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Join Date: May 2000
Location: RDU
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I would buy them for leisure travel in certain markets when I was PLT, especially those with generous hub stopover rules. Once I became EXP I haven't bothered on AA, although at times when I'm stuck flying DL because of schedule I will try to spring for it (TPA-ATL comes to mind).
Now that A fares will count for 2x EQM, I'll be looking for them. For leisure travel, I sit down on Christmas morning over breakfast and make a list of the destinations I'd like to visit "if the price is right" which for me is $0.07/EQM out of ORD, and $0.04 out of MKE as I need to spend 5k Hyatt on a hotel on the return. 14 cpqem for A is tough to find out of ORD on AA as an origin or destination - most places are at least 17, but not impossible and not if it's a stopover.
What I'm more likely to buy later in the year is WT+ fares between North America and Western Europe on BA at 150% EQM and 100% RDM, especially if I can get the BA 787 which has a very pleasant window seat for a 6-7 hour flight.
Now that A fares will count for 2x EQM, I'll be looking for them. For leisure travel, I sit down on Christmas morning over breakfast and make a list of the destinations I'd like to visit "if the price is right" which for me is $0.07/EQM out of ORD, and $0.04 out of MKE as I need to spend 5k Hyatt on a hotel on the return. 14 cpqem for A is tough to find out of ORD on AA as an origin or destination - most places are at least 17, but not impossible and not if it's a stopover.
What I'm more likely to buy later in the year is WT+ fares between North America and Western Europe on BA at 150% EQM and 100% RDM, especially if I can get the BA 787 which has a very pleasant window seat for a 6-7 hour flight.
#21
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#23
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Jacksonville, Fl USA
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My company policy is anything over four hours in air travel time is paid business, which I can usually book in F for domestic.
#24
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP & 1MM (Lifetime Gold); Marriott Gold; National Exec Emerald's
Posts: 337
All personal travel this year has been on paid first. If the cost is 2x Y or less, I will just buy first to take the guessing game out of the potential upgrade. As others have noted, the upgrade lists recently have seemed very lengthy.
#25
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: Double OWE (AA EXP, QF Plat), FI Gold
Posts: 1,887
Domestic flights are in paid discount first (WAUP) for me - I can't believe the size the upgrade lists have grown to, and even though EXP, with UGs going to the gate or even onboard, if sitting up front is important to me I'll just pay for it. International I still have to rely on SWUs...
#28
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My company will generally only pay for economy tickets, mostly refundable but varies by customer contract. I'll often buy one way tickets as then as it gets closer to the day of travel, I'll upfare into F on my own dime if it's a reasonable price. Also, if I usually end up changing a flight, I'll buy up to F as well.
Internationally, I'm usually on Y or B fares so it depends on the price if I'll upfare or not.
Internationally, I'm usually on Y or B fares so it depends on the price if I'll upfare or not.
#29
Join Date: May 2014
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP (probably nothing w/ AA next year :)), Delta Platinum, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Gold
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International Long Haul:
-Company pays; yes
-I pay; typically not, unless it's reasonable (within 500-1000 of economy, which is extremely rare/nonexistant). Also SWU's.
Domestic:
-Company pays; no
-I pay; depends on situation/price. For example, recently had a wedding to attend on a Saturday afternoon(was traveling with my SO, but we had something to do Fri night. I paid for an F ticket (about $150 more, I think) since we landed within 1 hr of wedding time. Worth it to sit up front/have coats hung. On the return, I bought a regular old economy ticket.
-Company pays; yes
-I pay; typically not, unless it's reasonable (within 500-1000 of economy, which is extremely rare/nonexistant). Also SWU's.
Domestic:
-Company pays; no
-I pay; depends on situation/price. For example, recently had a wedding to attend on a Saturday afternoon(was traveling with my SO, but we had something to do Fri night. I paid for an F ticket (about $150 more, I think) since we landed within 1 hr of wedding time. Worth it to sit up front/have coats hung. On the return, I bought a regular old economy ticket.
#30
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: San Jose, CA
Programs: CX Diamond, AA CK (quit 2018), Starwood Platinum, National EXC Elite
Posts: 283
I do. I gift my SWU's to friends. I don't play the upgrade lottery game, particularly in today's climate and my routes. Making EXP this year became a whole lot easier with the new program. If 137 / 138 becomes more reliable, less of my spend will go to CX J than in 2015.