Badly Treated at SFO. Normal? How to Mitigate?
#61
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SFO
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I love SFO T2
SFO T2 is my favorite terminal...great food, massage station...AC could be a little bigger...feels like Grand Central Terminal at rush hour some times!
I have not had any issues at T2 SFO although I am TSA Pre-check and I don't check in any bags. Maybe I've been spared the amateur agents LOL!
I have not had any issues at T2 SFO although I am TSA Pre-check and I don't check in any bags. Maybe I've been spared the amateur agents LOL!
#62
Join Date: Nov 2010
Programs: AA EXP (owe), BA Silver (ows), AB Silver (owr), WN A+/CP, IHG Spire AMB, Avis First
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So yes, this instance my fault, but my results would have been better going to VX counter and purchasing a ticket to get through security, followed by going straight to the gate and asking the gate agent if there was space. Not that I actually did that.
#5) ... and maybe question you more? Do you take this creative workaround approach anytime you run into problems? If so, perhaps that contributes to your bad experiences
And no, I have no actually applied any of these creative solutions yet. But I do often have very weird travel itineraries, like international double open-jaw flights.
OP, can you shed some light on this one? If I recall correctly, you were asking in another thread about booking separate tickets for you on AA vs your wife and kids on QF.
In the rare combination of booking that you
1) booked the domestic legs for your wife & kids separately from yours,
2) booked their domestic legs separately from the int'l legs, and
3) your wife and kids aren't at least AA Gold,
then being charged for 3 bags would have been correct (you could have done 4 of the 7 if on a TPAC ticket yourself)...
In the rare combination of booking that you
1) booked the domestic legs for your wife & kids separately from yours,
2) booked their domestic legs separately from the int'l legs, and
3) your wife and kids aren't at least AA Gold,
then being charged for 3 bags would have been correct (you could have done 4 of the 7 if on a TPAC ticket yourself)...
#64
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Houston, TX/Australia
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Now, if your phone wasn't dead, you might be able to buy one online. But by the time you do that, get it ticketed, and check-in, you could probably already have called the EXP or normal AA line (barring major weather events and such, of course).
That's precisely why I'm asking the OP how his tickets were purchased. Perhaps the agents were following policy, although that's a long shot!!
#65
Join Date: Nov 2010
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This raises an interesting question. Can you actually buy a refundable ticket at the counter? It seems like that wouldn't be allowed for obvious reasons. If you're already at the airport and requesting that, you're definitely not planning on using it.
Now, if your phone wasn't dead, you might be able to buy one online. But by the time you do that, get it ticketed, and check-in, you could probably already have called the EXP or normal AA line (barring major weather events and such, of course).
Now, if your phone wasn't dead, you might be able to buy one online. But by the time you do that, get it ticketed, and check-in, you could probably already have called the EXP or normal AA line (barring major weather events and such, of course).
That's precisely why I'm asking the OP how his tickets were purchased. Perhaps the agents were following policy, although that's a long shot!!
#66
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Francisco
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I've never had a problem with agents at SFO, though I once heard one get mighty gruff with someone who desperately deserved it.
#67
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Houston, TX/Australia
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What reasons? I'm legitimately curious. I can't think of any reason for wanting to buy a refundable ticket at the counter, at least one that I'm intending to use. And if I have zero intention of using it, what reason does the airline have to make they available?
#68
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: PHX
Programs: AA PRO
Posts: 352
Badly Treated at SFO. Normal? How to Mitigate?
Maybe F or Y is the only fare bucket left on the flight?
Maybe you want the mile or point bonus that comes with a full fare ticket?
Maybe it's not a simple one way or round trip ticket but one that includes other layovers or stopovers and you want flexibility to change those?
I've never done it either but I can think of some examples as to why it might be done, besides for the ploy of accessing the gate / lounge and then cancelling.
Maybe you want the mile or point bonus that comes with a full fare ticket?
Maybe it's not a simple one way or round trip ticket but one that includes other layovers or stopovers and you want flexibility to change those?
I've never done it either but I can think of some examples as to why it might be done, besides for the ploy of accessing the gate / lounge and then cancelling.
#69
Join Date: Nov 2010
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What happens to me is that my destination goes WX (for example SFO fog during runway construction...) and I really need to get there, or I already purchased a last minute refundable fare anyway. If I see that some other carrier has not posted a delay on their flight, I'll go over and pick up a ticket. Sometimes my original flight ends up being faster, sometimes the new flight ends up faster.
So if my original flight ends up being fine, I just cancel the refundable ticket I just bought. After all, thats what they are for, right?
#70
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OP Here. Sorry, was in Australia
OP, can you shed some light on this one? If I recall correctly, you were asking in another thread about booking separate tickets for you on AA vs your wife and kids on QF.
In the rare combination of booking that you
1) booked the domestic legs for your wife & kids separately from yours,
2) booked their domestic legs separately from the int'l legs, and
3) your wife and kids aren't at least AA Gold,
then being charged for 3 bags would have been correct (you could have done 4 of the 7 if on a TPAC ticket yourself)...
In the rare combination of booking that you
1) booked the domestic legs for your wife & kids separately from yours,
2) booked their domestic legs separately from the int'l legs, and
3) your wife and kids aren't at least AA Gold,
then being charged for 3 bags would have been correct (you could have done 4 of the 7 if on a TPAC ticket yourself)...
Gosh my post got a lot of interest and quite a divided response.
The wife and kids were on AA awards from my account SFO-MEL. I was on a paid ticket exact same route.
According to AA's own website they should be allowed two bags each. So in total just between the three of them they should have been allowed 6 bags.
#71
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Did your checked baggage comply? You had asked about this before.
Were all of you on 1 PNR/tickets or seperate PNR/tickets?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post25793774
Were all of you on 1 PNR/tickets or seperate PNR/tickets?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post25793774
#73
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: San Jose, CA USA
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When I get the re-calls, they often flub them, and it's another 14 minutes. I'm sorry, but this is unacceptable.
#74
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Well, has anyone tried calling the EXP line lately? It has, IMHO, sunk very badly from the glory days of 10 - 15 yrs ago. Now, all I get, is "Welcome back*****, we'd like to call you back in 10 - 14 minutes. Don't worry, you won't lose your place in line" and yadda.
When I get the re-calls, they often flub them, and it's another 14 minutes. I'm sorry, but this is unacceptable.
When I get the re-calls, they often flub them, and it's another 14 minutes. I'm sorry, but this is unacceptable.
#75
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Houston, TX/Australia
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Maybe F or Y is the only fare bucket left on the flight?
Maybe you want the mile or point bonus that comes with a full fare ticket?
Maybe it's not a simple one way or round trip ticket but one that includes other layovers or stopovers and you want flexibility to change those?
I've never done it either but I can think of some examples as to why it might be done, besides for the ploy of accessing the gate / lounge and then cancelling.
Maybe you want the mile or point bonus that comes with a full fare ticket?
Maybe it's not a simple one way or round trip ticket but one that includes other layovers or stopovers and you want flexibility to change those?
I've never done it either but I can think of some examples as to why it might be done, besides for the ploy of accessing the gate / lounge and then cancelling.
As intub8r indicates, its often the only available fare last minute, especially on short haul flights.
What happens to me is that my destination goes WX (for example SFO fog during runway construction...) and I really need to get there, or I already purchased a last minute refundable fare anyway. If I see that some other carrier has not posted a delay on their flight, I'll go over and pick up a ticket. Sometimes my original flight ends up being faster, sometimes the new flight ends up faster.
So if my original flight ends up being fine, I just cancel the refundable ticket I just bought. After all, thats what they are for, right?
What happens to me is that my destination goes WX (for example SFO fog during runway construction...) and I really need to get there, or I already purchased a last minute refundable fare anyway. If I see that some other carrier has not posted a delay on their flight, I'll go over and pick up a ticket. Sometimes my original flight ends up being faster, sometimes the new flight ends up faster.
So if my original flight ends up being fine, I just cancel the refundable ticket I just bought. After all, thats what they are for, right?