Apr 24, 2015, 3:45 am
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[2015 NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your Consolidated / Combined AA Questions Here (flame free)
Apr 24, 2015, 5:20 pm
#16
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: SAN
Posts: 487
Hey guys, I booked a ticket from SFO-HND using AA miles, ticketed/confirmed now. I'm based in SAN and planned on just using some WN points to get up there to catch the flight (I really wanted to try the new F product on that route), but just realized I might've goofed: isn't it the same amount of miles to go from SAN-SFO and connect (not stopover) onto SFO-HND? If so, would AA let me just "add" a segment to this ticket, or will they need to refund/re-ticket and charge me a fee and yadayada?
Apr 24, 2015, 10:10 pm
#17
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
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Hey guys, I booked a ticket from SFO-HND using AA miles, ticketed/confirmed now. I'm based in SAN and planned on just using some WN points to get up there to catch the flight (I really wanted to try the new F product on that route), but just realized I might've goofed: isn't it the same amount of miles to go from SAN-SFO and connect (not stopover) onto SFO-HND? If so, would AA let me just "add" a segment to this ticket, or will they need to refund/re-ticket and charge me a fee and yadayada?
I'm not sure if you could change the origin from SFO to SAN without causing a $150 redeposit fee.
Apr 25, 2015, 2:45 pm
#19
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Germany / Thailand
Programs: M&M/S SPG livetime gold, but not running behind status & points anymore! Now only book value for $
Posts: 3,090
There are, in fact, some connections allowed in Doha using QR that are only allowed using QR.
These are the only awards that are specific in that regard. All other awards go by published fares and and allowed 3rd region connections (which are pretty limited.) As well as some other rules.
You can see the allowed 3rd-zone connections (including the QR/DOH-specific ones) here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/541310...n/photostream/
These are the only awards that are specific in that regard. All other awards go by published fares and and allowed 3rd region connections (which are pretty limited.) As well as some other rules.
You can see the allowed 3rd-zone connections (including the QR/DOH-specific ones) here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/541310...n/photostream/
Apr 25, 2015, 11:11 pm
#20
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 3
The USAirways website talking about MoveUp says that you can do a MoveUp if there are seats available -- do those seats have to be in your fair class or can they be anywhere on the plane? (ie, can you MoveUp if there are only First Class seats remaining?)
Apr 26, 2015, 12:31 am
#21
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
I haven't done this since the merger, but pre-merger it was agent-dependent. I think the official policy is that there has to be a seat in the cabin you booked (or if you are in F, you have to be willing to go to coach if no F seats, and no refund). However, on many occasions, if F had multiple seats open and Y was full, they still did a move-up for me
Apr 26, 2015, 12:42 am
#22
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
I have a challenging upgrade question:
Originally booked a US-marketed/operated flight (pre-merger). There was a schedule change (post-merger) and the connection was invalid. Called US, re-booked me on an AA flight into Y class (I got an automatic UG on US for another flight next month when this happened).
Initially agent said I could not upgrade using miles or 500-mile certificates since US booked it as a codeshare AA flight. After some arguing saying it was supposed to be booked as AA flight, he did something that changed it to where I can now request an upgrade with 500-mile certificates but still would not let me UG with 5000 miles and wanted the 15k + $75.
My strange/challenging question is... it was originally a discount economy fare (Q or K I think). Now it is Y fare (shows up as Y on both US and AA site). Should I try another agent (or is it a computer thing) to see if they'll let me use 5000 miles to upgrade this flight versus the 15,000 + copay when it is not booked Y/B?
Originally booked a US-marketed/operated flight (pre-merger). There was a schedule change (post-merger) and the connection was invalid. Called US, re-booked me on an AA flight into Y class (I got an automatic UG on US for another flight next month when this happened).
Initially agent said I could not upgrade using miles or 500-mile certificates since US booked it as a codeshare AA flight. After some arguing saying it was supposed to be booked as AA flight, he did something that changed it to where I can now request an upgrade with 500-mile certificates but still would not let me UG with 5000 miles and wanted the 15k + $75.
My strange/challenging question is... it was originally a discount economy fare (Q or K I think). Now it is Y fare (shows up as Y on both US and AA site). Should I try another agent (or is it a computer thing) to see if they'll let me use 5000 miles to upgrade this flight versus the 15,000 + copay when it is not booked Y/B?
Apr 26, 2015, 7:11 am
#23
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My strange/challenging question is... it was originally a discount economy fare (Q or K I think). Now it is Y fare (shows up as Y on both US and AA site). Should I try another agent (or is it a computer thing) to see if they'll let me use 5000 miles to upgrade this flight versus the 15,000 + copay when it is not booked Y/B?
Apr 26, 2015, 7:43 am
#24
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
I have a challenging upgrade question:
Originally booked a US-marketed/operated flight (pre-merger). There was a schedule change (post-merger) and the connection was invalid. Called US, re-booked me on an AA flight into Y class (I got an automatic UG on US for another flight next month when this happened).
Initially agent said I could not upgrade using miles or 500-mile certificates since US booked it as a codeshare AA flight. After some arguing saying it was supposed to be booked as AA flight, he did something that changed it to where I can now request an upgrade with 500-mile certificates but still would not let me UG with 5000 miles and wanted the 15k + $75.
My strange/challenging question is... it was originally a discount economy fare (Q or K I think). Now it is Y fare (shows up as Y on both US and AA site). Should I try another agent (or is it a computer thing) to see if they'll let me use 5000 miles to upgrade this flight versus the 15,000 + copay when it is not booked Y/B?
Originally booked a US-marketed/operated flight (pre-merger). There was a schedule change (post-merger) and the connection was invalid. Called US, re-booked me on an AA flight into Y class (I got an automatic UG on US for another flight next month when this happened).
Initially agent said I could not upgrade using miles or 500-mile certificates since US booked it as a codeshare AA flight. After some arguing saying it was supposed to be booked as AA flight, he did something that changed it to where I can now request an upgrade with 500-mile certificates but still would not let me UG with 5000 miles and wanted the 15k + $75.
My strange/challenging question is... it was originally a discount economy fare (Q or K I think). Now it is Y fare (shows up as Y on both US and AA site). Should I try another agent (or is it a computer thing) to see if they'll let me use 5000 miles to upgrade this flight versus the 15,000 + copay when it is not booked Y/B?
To make sure you’re eligible for elite upgrades, you should book flights that are marketed and operated by the same airline – either US Airways or American. If you’re booked on a codeshare flight, you’ll only be able to upgrade when you check in, and as always, upgrades are based on availability.
Apr 26, 2015, 10:09 am
#25
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 3
I haven't done this since the merger, but pre-merger it was agent-dependent. I think the official policy is that there has to be a seat in the cabin you booked (or if you are in F, you have to be willing to go to coach if no F seats, and no refund). However, on many occasions, if F had multiple seats open and Y was full, they still did a move-up for me
Apr 26, 2015, 11:38 am
#26
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
Apr 26, 2015, 11:43 am
#27
Join Date: Mar 2008
Programs: AA Platinum, HHonors Gold, Alamo Insiders, Hertz #1 Gold
Posts: 191
Certainly you can call and ask - but simply showing up as "Y" online doesn't make it a true "Y" fare. Did you actually re-ticket? Did you receive a new itinerary in the mail? Y is both a fare bucket (full fare economy) and a cabin designator (coach/economy cabin) and this it is quite common for the cabin designator (Y/J/F) to show up online rather than the actual fare bucket.
In regards to fare bucket, when you pull up the itinerary on AA it says Cabin Class: "Economy" and Booking Code: "Y"
JDiver, yes, I know not to book codeshare that's why I asked them not to on the re-book!
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Apr 26, 2015, 6:30 pm
#28
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,723
I have a question re: check-in.
Suppose I'm flying DCA-BOS-LHR, and DCA-BOS is in Y and BOS-LHR is in F.
Am I allowed to use the First Class check-in counter at DCA? I always assumed the answer was yes, but not sure if that's right.
Thanks!
Suppose I'm flying DCA-BOS-LHR, and DCA-BOS is in Y and BOS-LHR is in F.
Am I allowed to use the First Class check-in counter at DCA? I always assumed the answer was yes, but not sure if that's right.
Thanks!
Apr 26, 2015, 6:56 pm
#29
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SJC/VCE
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