FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   American Airlines | AAdvantage (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage-733/)
-   -   Has AA eliminated the upgrade window for elites? (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1664064-has-aa-eliminated-upgrade-window-elites.html)

bse118 Mar 4, 2017 9:00 am


Originally Posted by rjw242 (Post 27989836)
Not necessarily. For anyone who doesn't fly internationally, the real value of a SWU used to be a near-certain upgrade on long domestic flights (often well in advance of the upgrade window). If normal domestic upgrades now typically clear before SWUs, there's much less point in using the latter.

OK, but if the upgrades are clearing as complimentary, seems to be a distinction without much of a difference. Put the request in with an SWU, if doesn't clear before the window, and you then clear in the window via the complimentary process, you've still got the upgrade and you've still got the SWU.

If there's a dilution to the SWU benefit for domestic usage, its lack of advance (before the window) space; not complimentary clearing before SWU's when in the window.

(And, still doesn't have any affect on international upgrades.)

And that's enough from me on this point, as it's somewhat OT for this thread.

jona970318 Mar 4, 2017 10:02 am

Just want to share a datapoint, it seems like for connecting itineraries, AA is still prioritizing/opening the window based on the time of the first segment. Case in point: I was scheduled to fly LAX-JFK-BOS, my JFK-BOS upgrade cleared ahead of the 100 hour window of the flight itself, though it seems consistent with the timing for the departure time out of LAX.
This is good and bad news in that AA got rid of prioritizing connection upgrades, they still open the window based on the time of the first segment, though there is no way to tell how they prioritize the waitlist otherwise

Antarius Mar 4, 2017 11:19 am

HNL-PHX cleared at T48. The flight was J3 for weeks so was surprised it cleared.

PHX-MAF cleared at T100

brc757rr Mar 4, 2017 12:06 pm

AA# 9 JFK-SFO 3/5 cleared at T-48 down to J2. They cleared 14 people.

ZoomVT Mar 4, 2017 10:18 pm

AA34 LAX-JFK cleared 2 at t-48 as a plat. There were 2 more cleared at the gate. I never had this flight clear so early in the window.

dpb132 Mar 5, 2017 7:32 pm

AA 6023 OKC-LAX 3/7 cleared at T48, simultaneous with the onward connection to RNO (so more like T54 for that one).

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George Mar 6, 2017 1:08 pm

I was surprised MIA/RDU cleared at T-105 then RDU/CLT cleared at T-105 and CLT/MIA T-72. All three flights the F cabin was half full. Lately those upgrades would not have cleared until T-24 at the earliest. Mid week travel Tues and Wed.

869 Mar 12, 2017 1:32 pm

Looking at DFW-EWR & RT with empty F cabins (ok, ok...J cabins) and no upgrade yet at T-90ish. MCE is about 45% occupied...was hoping for an early clearance

FlytheTail Mar 23, 2017 7:58 am

Flying ORD-BOS tomorrow, only 4 of 16 F seats showing as reserved and no upgrades have been processed. Until 2 days ago, coach was available in discounted booking classes and then suddenly, coach was no longer available. I'm surprised that they haven't opened any coach fares considering how open F is. Perhaps Y is already oversold and so that's why they're only allowing F bookings?

It seems like upgrade processing is determined by both availability of F seats as well as Y seats, i.e., when Y is at least nearly full, F upgrades are not processed in advance.

enviroian Mar 23, 2017 11:08 am


Originally Posted by FlytheTail (Post 28075910)
Flying ORD-BOS tomorrow, only 4 of 16 F seats showing as reserved and no upgrades have been processed. Until 2 days ago, coach was available in discounted booking classes and then suddenly, coach was no longer available. I'm surprised that they haven't opened any coach fares considering how open F is. Perhaps Y is already oversold and so that's why they're only allowing F bookings?

It seems like upgrade processing is determined by both availability of F seats as well as Y seats, i.e., when Y is at least nearly full, F upgrades are not processed in advance.

Flying ORD-PHX tomorrow with the opposite issue-- all F sold out across the board.

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George Mar 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Strangely my MIA/JFK flight which was half full still cleared at T-100. Even stranger my BOS/JFK flight cleared at nearly T-130. My chance to finally ride the 321T (live in Miami) albeit for a very short trip.

coolcoil Mar 24, 2017 9:20 pm

I am still not being cleared at T-100. On my current trip, I was not cleared until T-99.82 on the outbound and even worse, T-99.03 on the return!

Seriously though, I'm really glad AA has pulled its act together on this.

chix Mar 25, 2017 6:59 pm

AA1362 IAD-LAX on Monday cleared at T-48 as a plat. Received a prompt email. Pre-ordered Herbes de Provence Chicken (Poblano Peppers was option 2). 4 open F seats remain.

HOPING a sundae is offered for a change :-)

remedy Mar 30, 2017 4:31 pm

Gate upgrade(s) with lots of open seats up to boarding
 
PHX - FSD - PHX. 3/9 seats assigned, no upgrade prior to gate, noted on mobile that upgrade had cleared, asked to refresh my boarding pass on the mobile, no change, FC boarding pass presented on boarding.

AC agent said they do all upgrades at the gate now. Called the EXP desk who denies this. At gate now @ FSD waiting for the agent and hopefully new boarding pass.

they certainly cannot be holding 6 FC seats from/to PHX for sale can they be?

Seems odd...

:confused:

JDiver Mar 30, 2017 5:06 pm


Originally Posted by gcsmith (Post 27983543)
Just dropped to Platinum two days ago and booked some flights yesterday (aa.com said Platinum at the time). Upgraded my next two segments at 96 and 102 hours. By current rules that shouldn't be possible more than 48 hours out. Maybe a database entry or two trailing on the downgrade. These were short < 500 mile segments so complimentary.

Given the EP upgrade window is 100 hours and Platinum window is 48 hours, all it demonstrates is AA can, and will, upgrade outside of the upgrade window if the flight is "loose".

I've been upgraded a week out in relatively recent times - and at the gate counter, or not at all.



Originally Posted by remedy (Post 28108484)
PHX - FSD - PHX. 3/9 seats assigned, no upgrade prior to gate, noted on mobile that upgrade had cleared, asked to refresh my boarding pass on the mobile, no change, FC boarding pass presented on boarding.

AC agent said they do all upgrades at the gate now. Called the EXP desk who denies this. At gate now @ FSD waiting for the agent and hopefully new boarding pass.

they certainly cannot be holding 6 FC seats from/to PHX for sale can they be?

Seems odd...

:confused:

There are reasons why they might do this. A common one is when the airline is experiencing high OSO / IROPS (i.e. west Texas, Indiana severe storms and much of the west impacted by significant high winds right now) and seats are held in case they need to reaccommodate paid F passengers from delayed or canceled flights.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 4:59 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.