Dec 5, 2014, 11:27 pm
Last edit by: JDiver
NOTE: Changed flight numbers from 137 / 138 to AA 125 / 126 Nov 2016
This thread is for the discussion of upgrades (using systemwide upgrades /SWUs or mileage+ copay) for the DFW-HKG route.
General discussion about the new DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG routes can be found here: DFW-PVG and DFW-HKG Starting Summer 2014 [route discussion]
Discussion and questions about flight experiences on the DFW-HKG flights can be found here: 77W DFW-HKG AA 137 / 138 flight experiences, questions
DFW-HKG AA 125 / 126 77W Upgrade Chances & Waitlist Discussion
Feb 13, 2015, 10:28 am
#766
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Dallas
Programs: AAdvantage EXP, IHG Spire, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, National Executive Elite
Posts: 1,523
I flew DFW-CDG over Thanksgiving time, and it appears Non-Revs ended up in J due to almost no upgrade requests.
Of course my upcoming (in 3 weeks) DFW-HKG is already down to 20 J seats available, and every premium coach seat taken. Only saving grace is I was booked 4 months ago... so it still may clear. I honestly dont care too much, as it would be the significant other up front anyway. I'll be in MCE no matter what with my 2 rugrats. At least they understand that the armrests are non-negotiably MINE.
Feb 13, 2015, 11:17 am
#767
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 1,844
My flight, out Monday the 23rd, is a bit different. MCE has always been full, but many of the cheapest Y fares are all gone (Sunday thru Sunday), but the preceding week has 7's all across Y.
Chinese New Year is February 19.
I'll be running around, but I can guest someone at HKG F lounge.
Chinese New Year is February 19.
I'll be running around, but I can guest someone at HKG F lounge.
Last edited by zznoname; Feb 13, 2015 at 4:39 pm
Feb 13, 2015, 2:44 pm
#768
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 599
Just another data point, perhaps a little brighter than most: booked and requested less than 8 days from departure (both flights last week), selected dates based on business seat map and availability figures (10-20 seats open, availability in J buckets maxed out), upgrades in both directions cleared around 48 hours before departure. I noticed only 1-2 days per week with loads like this, otherwise J looked really full and certainly upgrades would be tough at best. My advice: if you are flexible on dates, wait until closer in to book, study the loads on EF, and a 1-2 day shift might make your chances significantly better.
Feb 13, 2015, 3:04 pm
#769
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Oakland
Programs: AA Explat, UA former 1K + PremExec, DL
Posts: 1,151
I asked for data point upthread a little; to follow up my wife (Gold) and I (Explat) on same PNR appeared to clear ~48hrs out. The J7/I7 didn't appear to drop until 24 hrs out, then to J3...
I did not receive any C availability notice from an Expertflyer alert.
Booked about 10-12 weeks out.
I did not receive any C availability notice from an Expertflyer alert.
Booked about 10-12 weeks out.
Feb 13, 2015, 11:06 pm
#770
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,470
Cut-off times for clearing EVIP upgrades
I know from personal experience that the EVIP clearance window is getting ever shorter, but I have a DFW/HKG flight (AA-137) in a little over 24 hours and AA tells me that although 30+ seats are unsold, the EVIPs may clear only on the morning of departure.
Is Doug Parker trying to sell as many upgrades as possible, before granting any crumbs to EXPs?
Is Doug Parker trying to sell as many upgrades as possible, before granting any crumbs to EXPs?
Feb 14, 2015, 1:03 am
#771
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ORD, DEL
Programs: AA (Plt Pro; 1.5 MM)
Posts: 6,185
Anything is possible, of course, but AA's past policy has been to clear elite upgrades before offering them to non-elites for cash+miles. That said, this is a notoriously difficult flight to clear. Good luck.
Feb 14, 2015, 4:18 am
#772
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: South Park, Metropolis
Programs: AA LT PLT 3MM, Hilton/Marriott/SPG/Club Carlson GLD, IHG PLT
Posts: 4,608
You can also check the experience that others have posted w/regards to this flight, as it has its own thread. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...periences.html
Feb 14, 2015, 6:20 am
#773
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SJC/VCE
Programs: AA PLT (2.9+ MM), HH GLD, Hyatt Diamond, SPG PLT
Posts: 10,161
I know from personal experience that the EVIP clearance window is getting ever shorter, but I have a DFW/HKG flight (AA-137) in a little over 24 hours and AA tells me that although 30+ seats are unsold, the EVIPs may clear only on the morning of departure.
Is Doug Parker trying to sell as many upgrades as possible, before granting any crumbs to EXPs?
Is Doug Parker trying to sell as many upgrades as possible, before granting any crumbs to EXPs?
Last edited by bdemaria; Feb 14, 2015 at 9:27 am
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Feb 14, 2015, 9:58 am
#775
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WAS/TYO
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP (3MM), DL PM, BONVOY TITANIUM, HYATT GLOBALIST, HILTON DIAMOND, IHG DIAMOND AMB, et al
Posts: 5,913
I've seen this route almost full in business weeks prior to departure on many occasions. This is one route that probably defies Parker's usual bias against 3-class international F and large premium cabins.
-FlyerBeek
Feb 14, 2015, 11:23 am
#777
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: WAS/TYO
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP (3MM), DL PM, BONVOY TITANIUM, HYATT GLOBALIST, HILTON DIAMOND, IHG DIAMOND AMB, et al
Posts: 5,913
Main Cabin Extra. https://www.aa.com/maincabinextra
AA's version of Economy Plus / Economy Comfort / Premium Economy, etc... On some AA aircraft (in particular, the 77W referenced in this thread) the seat and space are a significant improvement compared to regular economy.
-FlyerBeek
AA's version of Economy Plus / Economy Comfort / Premium Economy, etc... On some AA aircraft (in particular, the 77W referenced in this thread) the seat and space are a significant improvement compared to regular economy.
-FlyerBeek
Feb 14, 2015, 1:08 pm
#778
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Northern California
Programs: AA Plat Pro, Marriott Titanium, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Hyatt Globalist, Aeroplan 25K, UA Silver
Posts: 494
I'm wondering whether anyone has experience with SWU's clearing for someone who does not have elite status with American, but is Chairman's Preferred. I understand that American will not clear the CP until 24 hours before, but based on what I'm reading here, the EXPs are having issues with clearing. Is a CP treated below EPs or are they simply placed in the upgrade list according to the time the upgrade was requested. Thank you for any enlightenment.
Last edited by cocobird; Feb 14, 2015 at 1:21 pm
Feb 14, 2015, 6:08 pm
#779
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: AA(EXP)UA(1K/1MM) Marriott(PP,LifeTime Plat) Hertz(5*)
Posts: 449
so is there a way to ask or find out how many people are on the wait list for an upgrade when you are weeks out from the flight?
I would buy the business ticket if it looks that bad. But if there is 30 on a list with 30 seats available I would take those odds since the chance of all 30 being T PAX and or full far is slim. But who knows.
Any advice?
I would buy the business ticket if it looks that bad. But if there is 30 on a list with 30 seats available I would take those odds since the chance of all 30 being T PAX and or full far is slim. But who knows.
Any advice?
Feb 14, 2015, 6:20 pm
#780
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: ORD
Posts: 1,844
Are you talking about AA137 on February 15th? Hopefully your UG cleared, because this morning, 07.00 CDT, the Sunday flight was at C7 and still is:
Last edited by zznoname; Feb 14, 2015 at 6:59 pm